I can't imagine a situation in which the national champion would not be sent to the Olympics, assuming s/he was eligible by age, citizenship, minimum technical scores, etc. The reason the rules don't guarantee the Olympic spot to the champion are to avoid turning Nationals into an Olympic trials, which would give the USOC financial rights that US Figure Skating otherwise retains for its own.
That doesn't apply to world team selection, so they went ahead and wrote the guarantee into the rules a number of years ago.
Second and third place are still subject to second guessing, or whatever you want to call it, based on the other competitions mentioned in the selection rules. Which do not include the forthcoming 4Cs because they name the team during/right after Nationals.
As a matter of principle, any specific skater aside, would there be more value in keeping the world team undecided for several weeks and requiring several skaters to travel and compete and achieve specific results at another competition after Nationals as a condition of receiving the assignment?
I would not like that at all. I seem to be in an ever-shrinking minority on this issue, but I just don't like the model of the USFSA as the grand puppeteer pulling the strings on the insignificant athletes. Better to have well-defined procedures in place where the skaters know going in exactly what they must do -- what THEY must do, not what the USFSA committee might do -- to earn a berth on the World team.As a matter of principle, any specific skater aside, would there be more value in keeping the world team undecided for several weeks and requiring several skaters to travel and compete and achieve specific results at another competition after Nationals as a condition of receiving the assignment?
Edited to add: Correction. The latest post on the "Czisny sightings" thread says that she did a 2A and a 3T. The video that was posted started after the jumps.
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I agree no way Abbott gets a pass onto the team this year if he doesnt finish top 2 at Nationals. I dont think Evan will ever get one this year if he simply shows up at Nationals and skates mediocre, so why would Abbott. The only one I think will get put on the team without a top finish at Nationals (which in her case would probably mean withdrawing) is Wagner.
I have to agree w/ pangtongfan on this. I don't think any skater this season is going to get a spot without having to work for it at nats, except possibly Ashley.
Looking back at his season I would agree Jeremy doesn't get a pass. But Ashley certainly does. I still think Jeremy is unquestionably one of our two top men though, and I hope he does make the world team.
Davis & White, too, but other than them, and Ashley, I think that's it in locks for a slot to Worlds. US Nationals is going to be stressful!
I suppose there's something we can all agree on, though, based on how the season has unfolded: Wagner remains the favorite, and thus this title (like last year's ) is Wagner's to lose IF she competes AND skates like she has skated most of the time.
I think there are a few factors working against her this time that didn't last year, so I'm not expecting a slam dunk or easy victory here. If she DOES end up winning, I think it will be a barely squeaked-out victory.
ETA: I still think an upset is possible, maybe even probable. Gold probably much more likely than any of the others (including Nagasu) to pull it off.
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This gives me hope for her. Very recent article, and she's well aware of what's expected of her (and the difference between juniors and seniors). I feel like her best years will come after the Olympics, but she's going far.
Thanks for posting that. Interesting take (nothing we didn't really know already, however)
I can feel for her when she admitted to feeling the pressure. There seems to be so much hype surrounding her, a good amount of it probably having to do with her name, her looks (!?), etc.
But the pressure is exactly what makes or breaks so many skaters. Talent and hard work will get you to the competition, but mental toughness is what wins you the competition. (putting aside judging biases, etc. let's keep this simple)
It's why Kwan was so successful.
It's why people like Meissner and Hughes became World and Olympic champions (respectively), while someone like Cohen had to settle for silver, or in some cases, bronze.
It's also why Czisny has slipped up again and again. She could have been an Olympian - twice.
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