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    Men's SP JGP Croatia 2012

    live results page: [url]http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpcro2012/SEG001.HTM[/url]

    Warm-Up Group 1
    1 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI
    2 Ondrej SPIEGL SWE
    3 Carlo Vittorio PALERMO ITA
    4 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM
    5 Panagiotis POLIZOAKIS GER

    Warm-Up Group 2
    6 Pavel IGNATENKO BLR
    7 Andrei ZUBER RUS
    8 Lap Kan YUEN HKG
    9 Kristof FORGO HUN
    10 Osman AKGÜN TUR

    Warm-Up Group 3
    11 Jin Seo KIM KOR
    12 Sei KAWAHARA JPN
    13 Iassen PETKOV BUL
    14 Tino OLENIUS FIN
    15 Mitchell GORDON CAN

    Warm-Up Group 4
    16 Maxim KOVTUN RUS
    17 Mislav BLAGOJEVIC CRO
    18 Chih-I TSAO TPE
    19 Petr COUFAL CZE
    20 Steven Spencer BAKER CRO

    Warm-Up Group 5
    21 Harrison CHOATE USA
    22 Han YAN CHN
    23 David KRANJEC AUS
    24 Nathan CHEN USA
    25 Petar CETINIC CRO

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    Looks like it is about to start. They are posting Martinez's prior best score.

    [url]http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpcro2012/SEG001.HTM[/url]

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    After first warmup group:
    1 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 50.67 28.10 22.57 4.61 4.46 4.54 4.46 4.50 0.00 #1
    2 Panagiotis POLIZOAKIS GER 47.28 24.06 23.22 4.71 4.18 4.79 4.79 4.75 0.00 #5
    3 Ondrej SPIEGL SWE 39.17 18.82 20.35 4.32 3.71 4.14 4.14 4.04 0.00 #2
    4 Carlo Vittorio PALERMO ITA 37.37 18.90 19.47 4.04 3.82 3.79 4.00 3.82 1.00 #3
    WD Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM #4

    I hear Martinez doubled his flip.

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    The judging panel really came down on Nathan Chen. Two minor downgrades, and lots of lost levels in the spins and footwork. I actually think it was a bit too harsh.

    I'm actually not sure why his first spin was nulled (Han Yan's spin was nulled too). It had the minimum six revolutions in each position. Did he have to do 2 revolutions in the basic sit position for it to count? Not sure there. It's pretty much the same spin that he did at JGP Austria.

    I also think the triple flip he did was fine, and that the judges this season is being ridiculously nitpicky on the entry edge for the triple flip (they really want it on an inside edge, though I believe a flat edge is fine too).

    For some reason, his Step Sequence was also downgraded to a Level 2 from a Level 4 in Austria, and his final combination spin was also a Level 1 from a Level 3 in Austria. I would protest the change in difficulty levels for these two elements.

    The jump downgrades are appropriate in this performance, but I felt like the technical panel was mysteriously and ridiculously harsh.

    (Also, Harrison Choate's step sequence was NOT a level 4. The technical panel is smoking crack.)
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    1 Han YAN CHN 70.47 38.73 31.74 6.64 5.96 6.39 6.43 6.32 0.00 #22
    2 Maxim KOVTUN RUS 69.47 38.90 30.57 6.25 5.71 6.21 6.11 6.29 0.00 #16
    3 Harrison CHOATE USA 64.05 34.26 29.79 5.86 5.71 6.04 6.14 6.04 0.00 #21
    4 Nathan CHEN USA 55.85 27.50 29.35 5.96 5.71 5.82 6.00 5.86 1.00 #24
    5 Chih-I TSAO TPE 53.94 28.19 25.75 5.36 4.86 5.25 5.21 5.07 0.00 #18
    6 Mitchell GORDON CAN 53.92 26.89 27.03 5.64 5.07 5.50 5.39 5.43 0.00 #15
    7 David KRANJEC AUS 51.98 26.83 25.15 5.29 4.75 5.18 5.00 4.93 0.00 #23
    8 Jin Seo KIM KOR 51.37 25.52 26.85 5.46 5.00 5.32 5.57 5.50 1.00 #11
    9 Pavel IGNATENKO BLR 50.93 26.93 24.00 5.04 4.50 4.82 4.82 4.82 0.00 #6
    10 Sei KAWAHARA JPN 50.91 28.38 24.53 5.25 4.57 4.96 4.89 4.86 2.00 #12
    11 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 50.67 28.10 22.57 4.61 4.46 4.54 4.46 4.50 0.00 #1
    12 Petr COUFAL CZE 49.45 24.41 25.04 5.14 4.79 5.07 5.04 5.00 0.00 #19
    13 Osman AKGÜN TUR 47.56 26.56 21.00 4.50 3.93 4.25 4.21 4.11 0.00 #10
    14 Panagiotis POLIZOAKIS GER 47.28 24.06 23.22 4.71 4.18 4.79 4.79 4.75 0.00 #5
    15 Andrei ZUBER RUS 46.52 24.24 22.28 4.46 4.25 4.39 4.68 4.50 0.00 #7
    16 Kristof FORGO HUN 43.68 21.51 22.17 4.46 4.21 4.57 4.43 4.50 0.00 #9
    17 Tino OLENIUS FIN 40.11 20.39 19.72 4.14 3.75 3.93 4.11 3.79 0.00 #14
    18 Ondrej SPIEGL SWE 39.17 18.82 20.35 4.32 3.71 4.14 4.14 4.04 0.00 #2
    19 Carlo Vittorio PALERMO ITA 37.37 18.90 19.47 4.04 3.82 3.79 4.00 3.82 1.00 #3
    20 Iassen PETKOV BUL 37.24 18.03 20.21 4.29 3.75 4.07 4.14 3.96 1.00 #13
    21 Lap Kan YUEN HKG 27.74 11.42 17.32 4.00 3.21 3.36 3.50 3.25 1.00 #8
    22 Mislav BLAGOJEVIC CRO 24.54 10.62 13.92 3.04 2.64 2.71 2.96 2.57 0.00 #17
    23 Steven Spencer BAKER CRO 21.59 9.16 12.43 2.64 2.36 2.32 2.68 2.43 0.00 #20
    24 Petar CETINIC CRO 17.50 6.14 12.36 2.61 2.43 2.39 2.54 2.39 1.00 #25
    WD Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM #4


    For what it's worth, the technical specialist is Terry Kubicka, USA. And there were very few flips that didn't get an edge call here.

    The bit with the spins is also very puzzling. I'll have to run them several times to figure out why they weren't counted. Maybe I won't get it then either.

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    We see at video, that Han Yan had buttocks too high after change leg.
    The same mistake Nathan Chen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draqq View Post
    The judging panel really came down on Nathan Chen. Two minor downgrades, and lots of lost levels in the spins and footwork. I actually think it was a bit too harsh.

    I'm actually not sure why his first spin was nulled (Han Yan's spin was nulled too). It had the minimum six revolutions in each position. Did he have to do 2 revolutions in the basic sit position for it to count? Not sure there. It's pretty much the same spin that he did at JGP Austria.

    I also think the triple flip he did was fine, and that the judges this season is being ridiculously nitpicky on the entry edge for the triple flip (they really want it on an inside edge, though I believe a flat edge is fine too).

    For some reason, his Step Sequence was also downgraded to a Level 2 from a Level 4 in Austria, and his final combination spin was also a Level 1 from a Level 3 in Austria. I would protest the change in difficulty levels for these two elements.

    The jump downgrades are appropriate in this performance, but I felt like the technical panel was mysteriously and ridiculously harsh.

    (Also, Harrison Choate's step sequence was NOT a level 4. The technical panel is smoking crack.)
    Nathan's 3F is fine as it is, he didn't get an edge call. Han Yan's 3F got an edge call, which I think is fair.

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    Oh, in this instance I mean the judging panel and not the technical panel. There seems to be one or two judges in particular who give a -1 GOE for 3Fs even if there is no edge call or any apparent mistake made by the skater.

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    Nathan Chen withdrawn. In the middle of FS, one warm-up earlier than his skating.

    Why? Injury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Nathan Chen withdrawn. In the middle of FS, one warm-up earlier than his skating.

    Why? Injury?
    yes, Nathan Chen has an injury

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    [url]https://twitter.com/USFigureSkating/status/254275965881053184[/url]
    Nathan Chen has a lower leg injury that forced him to withdraw from JGP Croatia before the FS. He will be evaluated when he returns home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    [url]https://twitter.com/USFigureSkating/status/254275965881053184[/url]
    Nathan Chen has a lower leg injury that forced him to withdraw from JGP Croatia before the FS. He will be evaluated when he returns home.
    :( Hope it's nothing serious. I was so looking forward to his FS!

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