Grand Prix Early Predictions Game

**Macassar88** · 10-11-2012, 02:47 PM

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post, but I was thinking it could be a fun game to play where you guess the top 6 finishers in each discipline at each GP event before each of the GP's start. Then you get points depending on how close your top 5 were (the 6th is a substitute).
So here's the scoring system -
Every correct placement you get nets you the same number of points that the skater would get. If you are one place off, you get 3/4 of the points; if you are two places off you get 1/2 of the points, and if you are three places off you get 1/4 of the points that the skater scored. Anything else and you don't get points.
Whoever has the most points at the end wins (and we may continue it through to next year to include Euros, 4cc and worlds if there's good turnout)!

Points Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1VZMGZhZnBpLWc

You will have until 12 AM local time of the first day of competition to post your picks.
If you missed Skate America, don't be afraid to join! There's still plenty to be won!

**Mrs. P** · 10-11-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Macassar88

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post, but I was thinking it could be a fun game to play where you guess the top 6 finishers in each discipline at each GP event before any of the GP's start. Then you get points depending on how close your top 5 were (the 6th is a substitute).
So here's the scoring system I thought of -
Every correct placement you get nets you the same number of points that the skater scored (so if you guessed that Tuk would win Skate Canada and she scored 100 points total then you'd get 100 points). If you are one place off, you get 3/4 of the points; if you are two places off you get 1/2 of the points, and if you are three places off you get 1/4 of the points that the skater scored. Anything else and you don't get points.
Whoever has the most points at the end wins!

Sounds like a fun game! I would be willing to help out in calculating (I'm good at keeping spreadsheets!)

Or maybe to keep it simple we can used a similar scoring system to the GP (15,13,11,9,7,5) and use the deduction formula you mentioned. So if I predict that Ashley Wagner wins Skate America (15) points and she comes in third, I get 7.5 points. Doing it that way also puts more pressure on guessing the top spots correctly because if you're wrong, you stand to lose more points.

What do you think?

ETA: Also to consider -- do we want to put all the predictions out now or do it event by event? Given that withdraws and substitutions can occur up to days before the event, it probably wouldn't be beneficial to do it all at once.

**Macassar88** · 10-11-2012, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Mrs. P

Sounds like a fun game! I would be willing to help out in calculating (I'm good at keeping spreadsheets!)

Or maybe to keep it simple we can used a similar scoring system to the GP (15,13,11,9,7,5) and use the deduction formula you mentioned. So if I predict that Ashley Wagner wins Skate America (15) points and she comes in third, I get 7.5 points. Doing it that way also puts more pressure on guessing the top spots correctly because if you're wrong, you stand to lose more points.

What do you think?

ETA: Also to consider -- do we want to put all the predictions out now or do it event by event? Given that withdraws and substitutions can occur up to days before the event, it probably wouldn't be beneficial to do it all at once.

Yeah, maybe doing it before each event might be safer.
As for doing it using the GP method, I feel like it's just as easy to do it using the points they scored. It feels a bit less arbitrary (unless we're talking about crooked judging lol)
And I would definitely like help. We could make a google doc and share it with everyone that way everyone could see each other's points and another one with everyone's picks

**Macassar88** · 10-11-2012, 04:21 PM

I'll kick it off with my Skate America picks -

Men -
1: Hanyu
2: Abbott
3: Kozuka
4: Brezina
5: Machida
6: Verner

Ladies -
1: Wagner
2: Sotnikova
3: Leonova
4: Imai
5: Helgesson
6: Gao

Pairs -
1: Volosozhar and Trankov
2: Pang and Tong
3: Denney and Coughlin
4: James and Cipres
5: Castelli and Shnapir
6: Kemp and King

Dance -
1: Davis and White
2: Weaver and Poje
3: Bobrova and Soloviev
4: Zhiganshina and Gaszi
5: Alessandrini and Vaturi
6: Kriengkrairut and Giulietti-Schmitt

**burntBREAD** · 10-11-2012, 05:31 PM

I like this!

Skate America

MEN
1. Hanyu
2. Abbott
3. Kozuka
4. Machida
5. Brezina
6. Mahbanoozadeh

LADIES
1. Wagner
2. Sotnikova
3. Imai
4. Leonova
5. Helgesson
6. Marchei

PAIRS
1. Volosozhar/Trankov
2. Denney/Coughlin
3. Pang/Tong
4. James/Cipres
5. Donlan/Speroff
6. Castelli/Shnapir

DANCE
1. Davis/White
2. Weaver/Poje
3. Bobrova/Soloviev
4. Kriengkrairut/Guiletti-Smith
5. Zhiganshina/Gazsi
6. Alessandrini/Vaturi

**Macassar88** · 10-11-2012, 06:41 PM

And we have another casualty - Tobias and Stagniunas are out of Skate America. (this game is really forcing me to learn how to spell all these skating names)

**FSGMT** · 10-12-2012, 01:31 AM

My Skate America predicitions:
MEN
1 Hanyu
2 Kozuka
3 Abbott
4 Mabanoozadeh (I don't know how to spell it!

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5 Brezina
6 Menshov
LADIES
1 Wagner
2 Sotnikova
3 Leonova
4 Imai
5 Marchei
6 Gao
PAIRS
1 Volosozhar-Trankov
2 Pang-Tong (any news about them??)
3 Denney-Coughlin
4 James-Cipres
5 Dube-Wolfe
6 Castelli-Shnapir
ICE DANCE
1 Davis-White
2 Weaver-Poje
3 Bobrova-Soloviev
4 Zhiganshina-Gazsi
5 Kriengkrairut-Giulietti-Shmitt
6 Alessandrini-Vaturi
Good idea!

Please post after each GP the up-to-date results!

**sky_fly20** · 10-12-2012, 02:03 AM

Skate America 2012

1 Wagner
2 Leonova
3 Sotnikova
4 Imai
5 Flatt
alt: Helgesson

1 Hanyu
2 Kozuka
3 Brezina
4 Abott
5 Menshov
alt: Mahbanoozadeh

1 Volosozhar/Trankov
2 Denney/Coughlin
3 Pang/Tong
4 James/Cipres
5 Kemp/King
alt: Donlan/Speroff

1 Davis/White
2 Weaver/Poje
3 Bobrova/Soloviev
4 Zhiganshina/Gazsi
5 Alessandrini/Vaturi
alt: Kriengkrairut/Giuletti-Schmitt

**Macassar88** · 10-12-2012, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by sky_fly20

Skate America 2012

1 Wagner
2 Leonova
3 Sotnikova

1 Hanyu
2 Kozuka
3 Brezina

1 Volosozhar/Trankov
2 Denney/Coughlin
3 Pang/Tong

1 Davis/White
2 Weaver/Poje
3 Bobrova/Soloviev

You know that it's guessing top five right?

**sky_fly20** · 10-12-2012, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Macassar88

You know that it's guessing top five right?

done, I updated my list

**Macassar88** · 10-12-2012, 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by sky_fly20

done, I updated my list

Also, you can add a sixth place to use as a sub in case someone withdraws

**Mrs. P** · 10-12-2012, 05:17 AM

MEN

1.) Hanyu
2.) Abbott
3.) Kozuka
4.) Mahbanoozadeh
5.) Machida
6.) Menshov

Ladies
1.) Wagner
2.) Sotnikova
3.) Leonova
4.) Imai
5.) Helgesson
6.) Flatt

Pairs
1.) Volosozhar/Trankov
2.) Denney/Coughlin
3.) Pang/Tong
4.) James/Cipres
5.) Castelli/Shnapir
6.) Donlan/Speroff

Dance
1.) Davis/White
2.) Weaver/Poje
3.) Bobrova/Soloviev
4.) Zhiganshina/Gazsi
5.) Kriengkrairut/Giuletti-Schmitt
6.) Alessandrini/Vaturi

**sky_fly20** · 10-12-2012, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Macassar88

Also, you can add a sixth place to use as a sub in case someone withdraws

I added sixth but labeled it as alternate

**Butterscotch17** · 10-12-2012, 12:30 PM

Skate America 2012:

Men
1. Yuzuru Hanyu
2. Jeremy Abbott
3. Takahiko Kozuka
4. Armin Mahbanoozadeh
5. Michal Brezina
6. Tatsuki Machida

Ladies
1. Ashley Wagner
2. Adelina Sotnikova
3. Alena Leonova
4. Haruka Imai
5. Viktoria Helgesson
6. Christina Gao

Pairs
1. Volosozhar and Trankov
2. Denney and Coughlin
3. Pang and Tong
4. Donlan and Speroff
5. James and Cipres
6. Castelli and Shnapir

Dance
1. Davis and White
2. Weaver and Poje
3. Bobrova and and Soloviev
4. Kriengkrairut and Giulietti-Schmitt
5. Zhiganshina and Gazsi
6. Alessandrini and Vaturi