Last edited by plushyfan; 10-20-2012 at 06:16 AM.
[QUOTE=let`s talk;667584] While Hanyu looked like a teen kid who were left home alone, found daddy's booze and decided to experiment with his elder brother's guitar, until social service knocked the door.
you couldn't have said it better!!
I totally agree with you!
Crazy beautiful jumps, slow impersonal spins and an inadequate SP!
a lot of wasted talent.
But Canadian influence has already started
I have to say I really love how Jeremy Abbott always attempts to stretch and reinvent himself stylistically. He is a quintessential artist! I always love his programs as it is always clear that he puts a lot of care and thought into what he is trying to portray and convey on the ice. He commits to every move and note of the music and he never bores us with knockoff choreography or dead tired warhorses we've heard millions of times before. He is a true original and I appreciate that so much. Abbott will always have a piece of my <3!
I love the 3 guys at the top after the SP and I'd for them to be the podium at this event in any order.
Sorry that Verner, Brezina, Mahbanoozadeh, and Razzano had rough outings.
Last edited by museksk8r; 10-20-2012 at 06:35 AM.
Hanyu's skate was breathtaking. Yes the spins were slower than takas but they were in time to the music. The variety of the spins too was impressive. To me the difference between Taka and Hanyu is that Hanyu fills the ice better. His flow has much improved as well and the program has good transitions. The jumps were spectacular - havent seen the individual marks but must be very hige GOR.
So happy for Taka that he has got back on track - hope he can make the skate more expressive.
Hanyu: Holy scoring Batman! Actually, looking at it, it's not that bad - there are enough cool moments in the choreography and he looks less clunky than before. Just not as great as 95 would suggest. Oh well - if any other the other field wants to compete, I suspect we'll start seeing two-quad short programs. Hanyu will be world champion in London. Being from the richest federation in the world has it's perks.
Kozuka: Gorgeous. Should have been ahead PCS wise - fluid movement, lovely interpretation, beautiful choreography. Too bad he's getting dumped on for the new kid.
Abbott: I thought Rippon was the one channeling Mad Men? Interesting, could develop into a good short program.
Even if he had let's say zero expresivity, a skater should not be punished across the board for that is the SS, CH and other marks.
Those are unfair marks when compared with how much love Yuzuru got.
I agree that program was as good as it gets, but 10 points difference?
Common, you got to be kidding me.
Hanyu: My goodness he is talented! I see a lot of improvement in his skating. His jumps are exquisite. I believe that this will be a Golden year for him leading up to the big game.
Kozuka: I thought he was just fabulous. Loved everything about this program. Low balled on PC's in my opinion.
Jeremy: I really liked this program. A few glitches to be worked out, but very nice.
Machida: I was impressed. I enjoyed his performance very much.
Yuzru – I actually expected him to bomb, well, I still expect him to bomb his LP tonight. That said, I’m rather amazed by his artistry. He pulls classical music, powerful OST, and now sexy blues well! Wow. He can skate to such diverse styles at such a young age. Good for him.
Jeremy – I also think the program does not suit him well, but for me, anything from Jeremy is a treat. I like that he’s trying to do the quad out of new entrance. Looking forward to watching his LP tonight. That hair was awful though, wish he’ll change it.
Kozuka – he tried to be a Takahashi clone last season with Inner Urge program but failed. He saw the audience and the judges liked Yuzru’s powerful OST program, so this season he’s trying to be a Yuzru clone skating to powerful OST… but he showed no expressions and no connection to the powerful music. Of course the judges would not like this. The whole time he was skating I kept wishing Yuzru would skate to Exodus instead of him, just like last season I kept wishing Takahashi would skate to Inner Urge.
About Hanyu: last season people were saying that he was being underscored in PCS especially in the short, where he was getting around 39+. Now his skating skills are way better than they were before, he's more polished, he's world bronze medalist (so, his reputation grows) and he had an outstanding skate, probably the cleanest SP he's ever done: he obviously gets higher components marks. Now, how much higher do I think they should be? Well he was getting high 7s and 8s in skating skills last year, so considering his improvement I'd say a 8.5 isn't absurd at all, and his transitions are great. Performance was almost perfect. Choreography and interpretation -- rounded up to the other PCS, but that happens with just about everybody. So, is 43 too high? By a point, maybe. But what really made the difference in this score is the change in the rules, and the fact that he had a 3A and the combo in the second part of the program. And that all of his jumps were clean as a whistle and very impressive, with transitions in and out of them, same with his spins. So, huge technical score, and huge score overall.
Is this program better than Daisuke's record-breaking program last year? Performance wise, no. Technically, they're close. But this two programs were judged under different rules, so let's talk, as a Daisuke fan, you shouldn't worry too much. If Daisuke skates clean and makes good use of the rules with two jumps in the second half, he's sure to beat the record again, and maybe reach 100. Kozuka being underscored in the PCS department on the other hand, is true and a sad fact.
What I find funny (and not surprising in the least, I was waiting for this actually) is that for some of 'his' fans Hanyu was good enough as soon as he was, you know, young, cute, crazy talented but still lower ranked than their real favourites (Daisuke, Kozuka). They raved, saying that he was the future of japanese men's figure skating. Now he's still young, but he dares to change his coach voluntarily and choose a foreign one, he dares to keep getting better and to have a smartly choreographed program and break Daisuke's record even though the fact that he did doesn't mean much, and he becomes rubbish, non-expressive, ridiculous. Well, did you think he was going to be standing still, holding his Pooh bear waiting until Daisuke and Kozuka both retire? Which doesn't mean that he's now better than they are, it just means that he's better than he was last year and thankfully, it shows in his scores. Kozuka isn't as lucky, but I don't see why someone else besides the judges should be blamed for this.
Last edited by Kalina; 10-20-2012 at 08:35 AM.
Yeah, and the attempt to equate what Hanyu is doing to what Sretenski was alleged to have done is despicable.