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Most 16 year old skaters would not mind having Adelina's "problems."
She never, ever fails to make the podium. Don't you think there are reasons for that....... :think:
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Most 16 year old skaters would not mind having Adelina's "problems."
She never, ever fails to make the podium. Don't you think there are reasons for that....... :think:
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Sotnikova's Lutz was still off an inside edge. The second part of the combo was underrotated too. Very lucky beneficial call she got there. Of course, the silly CoP rules gave 0 points to her perfectly good 3Loop, so it didn't change where she deserved to be placed.
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Aw, yes, but the Olympics were not today, and there's still a lot of time left for someone to stake claim.
The main thing is landing the jumps (and a better program) And well seems to me that lutz was beautiful here (wasn't it?)
It was good
Most 16 year old skaters would not mind having Adelina's "problems."
She never, ever fails to make the podium. Don't you think there are reasons for that....... :think:
It's a mixed bag. It means she has so many impressive assets but will make enough mistakes to prevent her from winning but still do enough good things to medal. So far it has worked in gp events and nebelhorn and Russian Nationals where she has won but it's more of a dispiriting stat than a inspirational one lol and probably wouldn't hold at a worlds or even euros
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We have to wait and see. I am not sure how much I like Adelina's programs - but I like her enough as a skater it doesn't bother me.
But like you said - the assets are important - and not many skaters have as many as Adelina.
I hope she gets stronger as the season progresses because she is giving away too many points and at bigger events she needs to be cleaner.
But still, I think Adelina is so talented that she will get it together.
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LADIES FREE SKATE - VIDEOS & RESULT
1. Ashley WAGNER (USA) - 188.37 Free Skate
2. Christina GAO (USA) - 174.25 Free Skate
3. Adelina SOTNIKOVA (RUS) - 168.96 Free Skate
4. Valentina MARCHEI (ITA) - 158.79 Free Skate
5. Haruka IMAI (JPN) - 157.72 Free Skate
6. Mae Berenice MEITE (FRA) - 155.95 Free Skate
7. Alena LEONOVA (RUS) - 153.49 Free Skate
8. Viktoria HELGESSON (SWE) - 144.85 Free Skate
9. Rachael FLATT (USA) - 136.09
10. Sarah HECKEN (GER) - 134.09 Free Skate
1. Ashley WAGNER (USA) - 188.37 Free Skate
2. Christina GAO (USA) - 174.25 Free Skate
3. Adelina SOTNIKOVA (RUS) - 168.96 Free Skate
4. Valentina MARCHEI (ITA) - 158.79 Free Skate
5. Haruka IMAI (JPN) - 157.72 Free Skate
6. Mae Berenice MEITE (FRA) - 155.95 Free Skate
7. Alena LEONOVA (RUS) - 153.49 Free Skate
8. Viktoria HELGESSON (SWE) - 144.85 Free Skate
9. Rachael FLATT (USA) - 136.09
10. Sarah HECKEN (GER) - 134.09 Free Skate
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Yuna's first competition is in December. She's got three of them this season, including Worlds.
Anyways, too bad for Sotnikova. I thought she'd have shaken off her funk by now but it seems to be persisting.
Congrats to Ashley but she had some serious advantage skating in AMERICA. She'll still need to up her game for Worlds, I'll say. At this rate, though, she's got a good chance at a medal.
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I thought for her first competition of the year, Ashley did a great job. But I swear, that orange dress gave me a headache. Christina Gao looked very good but I don't know that she has the content to compete on the world level successfully. She reminds me alot of Chen Lu with those long legs and graceful moves.
Sotnikova will be a force to be reckoned with in Sochi if she continues her upward path. Her style of skating is most pleasing to me compared to other Russian competitors of the past. And she's young! Scarey young to be so accomplished.
Sotnikova will be a force to be reckoned with in Sochi if she continues her upward path. Her style of skating is most pleasing to me compared to other Russian competitors of the past. And she's young! Scarey young to be so accomplished.
I think Ashley did great, but 127 is a gigantic score for her performance. I was expecting 124 max - looks like she did really well in the PC department
This.
I don't have any problem with the podium placements, they were right on. Mainly because of the wide gap between the quality of the skates. I do have a problem with the obvious overscoring of Ashley and Christina. I'm not a judge, but I can actually guess pretty close to the final scores, often within one point after watching a skate. In my estimation, both Ashley and Christina got boosted by at least 5 points, probably closer to 10.
ANY scoring fudging going on is criminal and harmful to the sport. Remind me again why we threw out 6.0 in favor of CoP? Now having to sit through boring programs, most of them the same; skaters trudging through the required elements winning points like some kind of skating video game. All in the name of "fairness" -- except we still don't have fairness! So we threw out 6.0 and damaged interest in the sport for... oh yeah, no reason!
Seriously, someone convince me how Ashley wasn't clearly boosted for being the national champ at home. Also convince me why Christina Gao's skate wasn't just a bunch of jumps strung together in a chronological sequence, because that's mostly what I saw out there.
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Competing on home ice can be a double edged sword. I am sure Yuna remembers her experience quite well since she did not win.
Ashley said she was nervous before the LP (this was her first Skate America) but Mr Nicks calmed her down.
I don't get that so many are calling her "fierce" when she did not put a 3x3 in either program. And no 2A+3T. It's early in the season but this is an indication she can't do they bigger tricks reliably in practice.
I suspect she will have to up her tech to medal at Worlds while still showing consistency.
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Only difference is, this year (without a 3-3) she scores 127. Last year she might have been short of 115 with the same performance. :think: She's beginning to benefit from the "rep points" phenomenon that Czisny enjoyed last year as "the top American"...
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Despite dropping to 3rd, I was impressed seeing her do a 3Z-3T and a 3F. I still think she looks too hesitant going into the 3F but maybe she could take out the preceding steps to have better results with that jump. Gao was unbelievable today and Ashley is great so there is no reason to fret about losing to those skaters.
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No doubt about that - but Worlds is somewhat different than SA.
Speaking of fierce - if US Skating had left Flatt home and added Gold or Nagasu there could have been a sweep by the American Ladies.
That might actually have created a bit of a stir and raised some interest......
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I think there was a bit of a home turf bump in those scores, but she didn't give away much on sloppy landings like she sometimes does.
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I'd hate to say it but I don't think Mirai can (in current form) beat what Adelina put out there over the SP and LP.
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Aren't the judges international? What skin do they have in the game of giving Ashley extra points?
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With the "homecooking" we see at the GP events I would take my chances on Mirai. But the point is that if I was trying to boost interest in skating in USA I would at least go for it.
168 is a score Mirai gets for an average skate. So if she skated well she beats Adelina's score. I forgot Agnes...she also could have been given SA.
The bigger mistake was not to feature Gracie at SA. Big mistake in my opinion.
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can't wait to see what our folks in the arena come back and share! :yes:
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My thoughts: Ashley was great. She's quickly becoming my favourite ladies skater, American or otherwise. The only others I saw on NBC were Sotnikova, Marchei, Gao, and Meite. They were all decent but none of them blew me away. Gao was better than usual but she has always bored me a bit. It's too bad about Rachael Flatt but I can't even be bothered to go watch the performance on youtube - what's the point if it's bad? The only other one I might want to see is Viktoria Helgesson's but it'll break my heart if it's a really bad performance from her (which I'm suspecting it was, from her low placement).
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