Skate Canada 2012 Men's SP

**Mrs. P** · 10-26-2012, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Becki

I am a little disappointed, and I can tell so was Oda. I'll have to look at the protocol to see the problem...but Oda only stepped out of his 3A. Unless that was downgraded...

How is Florent's PC almost the same as Oda's?!?!

Well it's not fair, but Oda's been out of the scene for nearly a year -- and his last competition was a 7th place finish at TEB....similar thing to what they did to Kozuka at SKAM.

**Becki** · 10-26-2012, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mrs. P

Well it's not fair, but Oda's been out of the scene for nearly a year -- and his last competition was a 7th place finish at TEB....similar thing to what they did to Kozuka at SKAM.

Well....I hope he does even better at LP!

But Fernandez...that was amazing. Can't believe he's doesn't look that pleased with 85....probably secretly comparing himself to Yuzu's score :P

**museksk8r** · 10-26-2012, 08:35 PM

Typical judging dumpage. Oda went from being the 2nd Japanese to being the 4th Japanese male after 2 very bumpy seasons. He has so many times been positioned to medal at Worlds only to make costly mistake time and time and time again. His reputation to the judges has suffered along with his lack of consistency. I think the inclination in the judges' minds is that they've given up on him. He needs to consistently produce performances like he did today in order to see his PCS marks rise.

**SkateFiguring** · 10-26-2012, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by sky_fly20

of course, they need to make room for Chan's SP world record ?

Right, let's save 13 off the current WR to make room.

**mikiandorocks** · 10-26-2012, 08:35 PM

Fernandez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR4bM...hannel&list=UL

**coolboogie22** · 10-26-2012, 08:36 PM

I wish to see the final group. Can anyone give me a free live stream working ?

**Mrs. P** · 10-26-2012, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by museksk8r

Typical judging dumpage. Oda went from being the 2nd Japanese to being the 4th Japanese male after 2 very bumpy seasons. He has so many times been positioned to medal at Worlds only to make costly mistake time and time and time again. His reputation to the judges has suffered along with his lack of consistency. I think the inclination in the judges' minds is that they've given up on him. He needs to consistently produce performances like he did today in order to see his PCS marks rise.

Makes sense, though he technically never finished 4th at Japanese nationals. But yes, I guess in the judges eyes that is how they see it.

**emma** · 10-26-2012, 08:37 PM

Thanks so much for the videos - I tried to download the hulu thing several times and it didn't work. Anyway, thus far, I've only seen Oda, and I have to say, I'm so glad he is back. I thought he looked great. Will be interesting to see the protocols, but although he might be disappointed, I was thrilled to watch him skate.

**Becki** · 10-26-2012, 08:37 PM

Only comment....Artur...why is your costume so transparent?

**LEESTARR** · 10-26-2012, 08:37 PM

1 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP
85.87 1
2 Nobunari ODA JPN
82.14 2
3 Denis TEN KAZ
75.26 3
4 Florent AMODIO FRA
74.61 4
5 Elladj BALDE CAN
72.46 5
6 Ross MINER USA
69.41 6
7 Takahito MURA JPN
62.10 7
8 Liam FIRUS CAN
60.50 8

**bigsisjiejie** · 10-26-2012, 08:38 PM

The videos are great, thanks. Amodio: He fell twice. Why does he only have -1 deduction?

**museksk8r** · 10-26-2012, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mrs. P

Makes sense, though he technically never finished 4th at Japanese nationals. But yes, I guess in the judges eyes that is how they see it.

Still, he is the only one of the top 4 Japanese males who have never medaled at Worlds despite attending that event 5 times.

**Mrs. P** · 10-26-2012, 08:40 PM

Having not seen either program -- it is a bit silly that Javiar has better SS scores than Nobunari "soft knees" Oda....

**Art&Sport** · 10-26-2012, 08:40 PM

After looking at Elladj's skate, he should definitely be in front of Ten. I haven't seen Amodio yet. Elladj skated great. What does he have to do to get great marks? Elladj deserves at least 76-78 range for his clean performance. I don't care about PCS, Elladj may need more polishing, but he skated better here than Denis. If they are going to put Elladj in front of Ross, then he should be in front of Denis too.