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    Back to lift technique practices for Canton top teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.H.Black View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean. I saw all the teams on my Universal stream. No problems.
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    http://www.tsn.ca/figure_skating/

    TSN has the program, and it isn't geoblocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art&Sport View Post
    Back to lift technique practices for Canton top teams.
    YES both top Zueva teams need a LOT of refinement. so far, Scott and Charlie are looking like they're throwing and tossing their partners up in the air like pizza dough while there is no polish in all the positions.

    I thought however Tessa hanging like a corpse on that rotational lift did fit the dirge-like part of the music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riceplate View Post
    YES both top Zueva teams need a LOT of refinement. so far, Scott and Charlie are looking like they're throwing and tossing their partners up in the air like pizza dough while there is no polish in all the positions.

    I thought however Tessa hanging like a corpse on that rotational lift did fit the dirge-like part of the music.

    Well Meryl and Charlie had a much more polished sd than did Tessa and Scott. Plus D/W got out of the wonky lift a lot faster than V/M too. D/W do need to continue working on the finer points of their fd. Let's see how V/M fd fares at SC. I'm sure they will rock it out of the arena, if the practices are any clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riceplate View Post
    YES both top Zueva teams need a LOT of refinement. so far, Scott and Charlie are looking like they're throwing and tossing their partners up in the air like pizza dough while there is no polish in all the positions.

    I thought however Tessa hanging like a corpse on that rotational lift did fit the dirge-like part of the music.
    Sorry, but saying there is no polish in Meryl Davis' position in the rotational lift at Skate America strikes me as being as close to objectively wrong as figure skating can get.
    Last edited by ImaginaryPogue; 10-26-2012 at 10:37 PM.

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    There's not much height difference between Tessa and Scott. If Scott has neck pain, a lift like that last one is chancy to begin with. They need to replace that lift ASAP. Scott shouldn't be toughing it out if the end result costs that many points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    There's not much height difference between Tessa and Scott. If Scott has neck pain, a lift like that last one is chancy to begin with. They need to replace that lift ASAP. Scott shouldn't be toughing it out if the end result costs that many points.
    He said that it was the one he hurt himself on and there was debate about taking it out. I think they will be taking it out.

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    Wow, though I wonder how C/L are feeling about now. This really sets up an interesting fd, since C/L are skating to the same music (maybe not the same cuts) as V/M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rain View Post
    Early in the program Scott said he almost knocked Tessa out — accidentally hit her. They got visibly stuck on their last lift — the one that he apparently hurt his neck on. That knocked the lift down to the lowest level. Also apparently they lost some levels on some other things.

    This doesn't bother me at all. They know what they need to work on and I expect their scores will just go up as the season goes on. And, importantly, I liked the program as a whole. I think it's a good vehicle.

    Exactly this. I really love this program. It absolutely suits them, and will be a great contrast to Carmen. I really love how the polka and rest of the program blend so seamlessly. The technical elements are completely fixable. V/M always improve throughout the season. Next outing will more than likely be 10 points higher. I don't have a problem with their PCS scores so high. Their skating skills, interpretation, unison, beauty, quality edges, and so on are really in a class by themselves. It's simply divine. You'll notice there are no 10's in the score sheet this time. By the end of the season I'm sure there will be.

    Zueva should call in a known technician, or send her students elsewhere for a week, for Yankee Doodle and step sequence boot camp. (I'm not sure we can blame this entirely on Zueva, since the Canton teams did miss levels on their pattern dance sequences last year even with Igor. And none of his teams this year earned level 4's.) They need a specialist for this. V/M were just off a little on the twizzles, and they are capable of doing much better. I expect the lift will be changed.


    Of the other teams:
    - really liked C/L. They are dressed well, moved well, and are just lovely. And awfully easy on the eyes....

    - liked H/D. They have a ton of potential. Gorgeous, well matched team.

    - French had the most entertaining program. I was expecting to hate the program, but it was just so cheesy it worked for me. By worlds this should be a lot of fun.

    - Really glad that G/P received more appropriate marks. I was hoping an international judging panel would put some sense into the placement of this team. I love that they are having fun together, but they need to be more matched in skills, lines, edge etc. before they deserve the marks they have received in the past. And this will take some time, since skills like this are not built overnight. Watch the video, paying attention only to G/P feet, then compare with other teams. His are fine, but hers are really messy, missing toe points, and almost flat instead of on edges often.

    - Still very sad for R/H. They need better material and better costumes. After such a good year last year, they are back to sub-par programs and packaging. So sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art&Sport View Post
    Wow, though I wonder how C/L are feeling about now. This really sets up an interesting fd, since C/L are skating to the same music (maybe not the same cuts) as V/M.
    more like team zueva vs team schpilband

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.H.Black View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean. I saw all the teams on my Universal stream. No problems.
    Thanks for this AHB. I have been considering switching from cable to DirectTV, so that I could watch skating via Universal Sports online subscription as I had done the last few seasons. 1795's post made me wonder if Universal Sports was now only providing one edited stream for both tv broadcast and online viewers, rather than both the edited tv broadcast and the full live stream that they offered previously. Good to know the full online stream is still available.

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    I just looked at Madison and Zach. Oh my, they definitely seem to have been underscored by a lot!

    Those who are unbiased experts on ice dance, what makes C/L so much better than H/D?

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    Rough skate for V/M..and I ,too , bet that lift is a goner by CoR. Otherwise ,I like the program , and don't expect the other problems to persist .Don't forget Scott said he almost knocked Tessa out earlier in the program , which might be enough to throw you off a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernDancers View Post


    - French had the most entertaining program. I was expecting to hate the program, but it was just so cheesy it worked for me. By worlds this should be a lot of fun.
    I really enjoyed our Frenchies program too!
    They have improved since last season, but sadlly, even to have a technical coach, they yet do not get the technical levels for Worlds.
    Someone say on FSU that they have the technical level for SD at Nice 2011, but sadly they did not.
    http://nice-figure-skating-cup.com/i...tml/SEG011.HTM

    This will be a catastrophe for france to have only 1 couple at worlds, but I cannot see Carron/Jones making the SD tech score, unless they lower the score.
    Maybe our president Didier will politik this?
    Papadakis/Cizeron have qualifying score for worlds, but they will be try to win Junior worlds, so they could not do worlds at same time.
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