Skate Canada 2012 Ladies - Long Program (7:45 AM PST/10:45 AM EST)
(Hmm... not sure how to change the time mistake in the title...)
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Polina SHELEPEN
2 Gracie GOLD
3 Caroline ZHANG
4 Amelie LACOSTE
5 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA
Warm-Up Group 2
6 Akiko SUZUKI
7 Kanako MURAKAMI
8 Ksenia MAKAROVA
9 Kaetlyn OSMOND
10 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI
1. Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) - 176.45 Free Skate
2. Akiko SUZUKI (JPN) - 175.16 Free Skate
3. Kanako MURAKAMI (JPN) - 168.04 Free Skate
4. Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA (RUS) - 168.00 Free Skate
5. Elene GEDEVANISHVILI (GEO) - 160.52 Free Skate
6. Ksenia MAKAROVA (RUS) - 154.11
7. Gracie GOLD (USA) - 151.57 Free Skate
8. Amelie LACOSTE (CAN) - 151.44
9. Caroline ZHANG (USA) - 149.87
10. Polina SHELEPEN (RUS) - 124.29
Last edited by draqq; 10-27-2012 at 01:06 PM.
Reason: Wrong Time
Can someone please clarify when, EST the ladies long will happen? Is it 10:45 am? Been up all night and I don't know militarry time- what is GMT? We have usually EST and PCT in US. Mid Section of country is one hour later than us.
Could someone tell me the remaining schedule East coast time for the finals of each event? I did see a little ID like on Haha but lost stream....Universal sports had many up on youtube-so much clearer than russian feed. Though I'm grateful. Please give the start orders with start times if you know it.
Mens and ladies had such surprises. So exciting to see new faces like Goldie and Osmond. Goldie we r rooting for the LP in US and Osmond is a sparkler-love her already!
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time.
So whatever time it is in Ontario (Toronto, Ottawa) vs time where you are. Or you can search Windsor, if you're concerned. Ontario is Eastern Daylight Time right now, if that helps, so
Ladies Long: 10:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 7:45 AM Pacific
Pairs Long: 1:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 10:05 AM Pacific
Ice Dance Free: 4:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 1:40 PM Pacific
Men's Long: 7:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 4:40 PM Pacific
EDT = EST during the daylight savings, fwiw.
Last edited by ImaginaryPogue; 10-27-2012 at 07:29 AM.
Yeah, sorry guys and gals about the time mistake. Hopefully, a mod will see it and be able to change it because it doesn't seem I can.
I would fix it but am limited when i am on the baords via my smartphone.... Not sure any of our mods are awake and on here yet. Perhaps try pming mathman? He should be up. (Im up due to the dog needing attention. Ugh)
Thanks! This is working for me
Originally Posted by raress
So much talent in the first warm-up group!
First two 3-3s looked very UR'ed
Polina SHELEPEN (RUS)
Music: Gone With the Wind (soundtrack)
Red skirt, pink top w/ red stripes
3S+3T - 3T looked <
2A<< - fall
3F - turned out
3Lz<< - fall into the boards
FCCoSp - shaky
Her skating and jumps look very laboured, not much in-betweens
I've got it but lots of freeze-ups, nearly unwatchable. Anybody got any other options?
Originally Posted by raress
Ladies - Long Program (7:45 AM PST/10:45 AM EST)
If SubRosa is correct regarding how the judges judge, then Kaetlyn was lowballed in the SP in the mind of the judges, and over-compensated in the LP. What should she have scored if both SP and LP were scored correctly?
Originally Posted by Mathman
It is good some people are now making it clearly known in their posts, that they are not holding it against Kaetlyn herself. Unfortunately, these type of controversies can become a stigmatism that some people will eventually attach to the skater. Just look at those people who were quick to accuse Skate Canada of corruption because of what international judges decide.
She was correctly balled in the SP, PCS in the 6's. And should have had about the same scoring for PCS in the FS as well. Akiko deserved in the 8's pretty much across the PCS components in the FS. That didn't happen, and the difference cost Akiko her deserved gold medal.
Originally Posted by rvi5
Rejoicing in the land of Kwan
Great programs from the top skaters!
Kaetlyn: It wasn't as secure as the SP but she turned in a good amount of technical content along with a great program. She's something pretty special! I love how she performs to the crowd and the judges. It's really great to see and it's not something a lot of newbie seniors know how to do. I think she deserved her scores here...
Akiko: That SP wasn't so great; I wonder if she'll stick with it or go back to an older one? Her LP was absolutely gorgeous though...I love that program and that dress is SO beautiful. I think she was lowballed by the judges here. Akiko's PCS should have been high 7s and low 8s, not low to mid 7s. The judges screwed her over...
Kanako: I adore her LP! That's how you do a tango piece! Brilliant! I loved all of the footwork and the steps at the end too...and that was a pretty solid effort though I am a bit worried by all of the UR calls she received. Hopefully that's just b/c it's the beginning of the season. Overall, great competition for her.
Liza T: I like her Dark Eyes program. It's obvious she's not 100% yet but given her injury, I thought she did pretty well here. I love the attitude and performance she gave this program...
Gracie: I'm still not impressed with her...I don't get the hype. Big jumps yes...but that's about it IMO.
Haven't seen Caroline yet but apparently she did okay given the circumstances...
Last edited by kwanatic; 10-27-2012 at 08:52 PM.
I think there is something to that. IMHO her short program was brilliant. Kaetlyn attacked everything and hit every note of the music. It could certainly be true that the judges were ashamed of themselves for low-balling her in the PCSs in the short program, so they tried to make it up in the long.
Originally Posted by rvi5
In the long she was called upon to show more nuance and variety. This (IMHO) did not play to her strengths like the go-go-go short program did. The cut of the music was not her friend (and I love Carmen all day long). Also, the fall on the opening jump and the mistake on the intended 3-toe combo did detract from the spell of the performance -- as technical mistakes always do, in my opinion.
If it were up to me the PCSs for the short program and the long should be switched. Suzuki's should be a little higher in the long program, in my inexpert opinion.