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    The funniest part was people actually thought Gracie would medal or even win, omg lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishflip View Post
    Kanako was crazy good
    Her problem - URed jumps (Worlds-2012, Regionals in Japan, and now). If she will overcome URs, she will be able to pretend on highest places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ordinary person View Post
    The funniest part was people actually thought Gracie would medal or even win, omg lol.
    Best that has Gracie - jumps. If her jumps are good - they are the core of program to add all other. If jumps are not good - she is very ordinary skater, not world level.

    Ashley, Alissa, Kanako, Akiko, Carolina have very good non-jumping performance, making them world-level skaters with not so high jumping level. Gracie is based on jumps.
    Last edited by AlexRus; 10-29-2012 at 05:09 AM.

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    I love Akiko!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Best that has Gracie - jumps. If her jumps are good - they are the core of program to add all other. If jumps are not good - she is very ordinary skater, not world level.

    Ashley, Alissa, Kanako, Akiko, Carolina have very good non-jumping performance, making them world-level skaters with not so high jumping level. Gracie is based on jumps.
    All those skaters you mentioned when they don't land their jumps don't get on the podium either. Allissa and Carolina for instance have had horrible finishes when they bomb regardless of their skating skills. Any skater who struggles with their jumps like Gracie did would not had medaled at SC either.

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    The gloating over Gracie not finishing as high as some predicted is unbecoming. If you guys think Gracie is overrated, let the results over the next few years speak for themselves. Just as it was too early last week to predict she is the next coming of Michelle Kwan, it is too early today to say she is a complete failure. She has quite a bit of promise, no more, no less. I'm excited to see how she develops. And I hope this immature dispute over who was right and who was wrong about her doesn't turn her into a headcase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydreamer View Post
    The gloating over Gracie not finishing as high as some predicted is unbecoming. If you guys think Gracie is overrated, let the results over the next few years speak for themselves. Just as it was too early last week to predict she is the next coming of Michelle Kwan, it is too early today to say she is a complete failure. She has quite a bit of promise, no more, no less. I'm excited to see how she develops. And I hope this immature dispute over who was right and who was wrong about her doesn't turn her into a headcase.
    Totally Agree.
    Like Gracie, Kaetlyn is a work in progress. Only time will tell whether they are great or fall by the wayside. Growth and injury are important factors along with nerves. The difference between these two and say Alissa is that Alissa beautiful spins and flow stand out even when her jumps are not there.

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    Where can I write to have any effect on how AWFUL Tara Lipinski is at commentating? She's not even technically there. She can't make live calls on jumps that vary from the script/intentions. And everything is so unoriginal.. She does not have an original thought. Good grief... no one is at home during the Ladies' competition. Michael Weiss is actually surprisingly good but Tara is - well - has there been anyone worse? What really bothers me is this is on NBC which of course has the Olympics cornered. By now Dick and Peggy's contracts with ABC/ESPN must have run their course so why not hire the best?

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    I actually used to like Lipinski's commentating. She used to be very informative and knowledgeable. But for some reason, she has become much more generic/bland recently. Not sure if it's the NBC honchos telling her to "dumb it down" or something, they may be the ones to blame...

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    Nope - I think it's her. She remains silent if a skater does something unintended, like she can't recognize the substitution. She certainly doesn't have the local color commentating skills either. And of course she has to talk about herself too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Best that has Gracie - jumps. If her jumps are good - they are the core of program to add all other. If jumps are not good - she is very ordinary skater, not world level.

    Ashley, Alissa, Kanako, Akiko, Carolina have very good non-jumping performance, making them world-level skaters with not so high jumping level. Gracie is based on jumps.
    Ok I didn't like Gracie at all last year, I thought that anyone who could see her winning a world title was crazy. But this year if you watch her other competitions and her practice at Skate Canada you can see large improvements in spin positions and her performance skills. I actually think her short has very good choreography which she does need to perform to more, rather then thinking about the movements. But this year I can see what could be a world champion in the future. Of course she's only 17 and anything could happen so we shall see.....

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