All this bickering is such a waste of energy. Seriously people. Get it together. It's a sport. A subjective sport. Osmond perfomed 2 very solid programs. Suzuki had a bad short program. If she had a clean short she would have won. They are both incredible skaters. Skate Canada routinely holds great events, just as do the other federations. How about we spend a bit more time putting good positive energy out there in this world. All those negative passionate thoughts are creating more negativity in your lives. Let it go.
That said, I hope that it's clear that many posters are making some valid points questioning the results without resorting to personal attacks of the skater's nationality or appearance. At least I'm trying to!
Totally agree. Some posters are venomous in their anger. I hope they are given an infraction.All this bickering is such a waste of energy. Seriously people. Get it together. It's a sport. A subjective sport. Osmond perfomed 2 very solid programs. Suzuki had a bad short program. If she had a clean short she would have won. They are both incredible skaters. Skate Canada routinely holds great events, just as do the other federations. How about we spend a bit more time putting good positive energy out there in this world. All those negative passionate thoughts are creating more negativity in your lives. Let it go.
There is nothhing wrong with having a different opinion but state it with civility. One shudders to think of the kind of upbringing these people have.
I thank jan and canskate for adding sunshine and rainbows to this discussion....oops, I mean "bickering".
I really am not seeing Suzuki was robbed in the sp as much she was robbed by Osmond overscoring in pcs in the fs. Which can be illustrated by her 9.25!!!!
Javier trains in Canada and is coached by Brian Orser, so he is likely regarded by some as an honorary Canadian. Nothing wrong with that. Canadian audiences would likely still cheer for him, but surely they cheer more because he is coached by a beloved Canadian skater. I love Javi too and its nice to see him win SC, especially after missing out last year with two good performances.
In regard to inquiry -- Of course not! I agree with the person who said the title of this thread presupposes that the ISU will ever investigate itself. But clearly in this case, it doesn't make sense to launch an investigation. That's like swatting at a pesky fly with a hammer and an ax.
Last edited by Art&Sport; 10-28-2012 at 03:40 PM.
Were the Universal sports commentators actually in the rink, or do they perform the broadcast sitting in a studio watching a feed on a monitor?
I suspect much of the audience are not die-hard figure skating fans, but just casual fans who decided to attend a local event while they had the opportunity. They may not know who the skaters are, much less where they train or who their coach was. They likely assume most foreign skaters live and train in their home country. Some people who attend CSOI, don't even know who V/M are, although most know Kurt and Joannie (after the Vancouver publicity). Honorary Canadian? Javier who?
Last edited by rvi5; 11-23-2012 at 10:16 AM.
Studio watching a monitor
Anyway, during the warm-ups, I believe the announcer introduces each skater and mentions who they are coached by. I don't know if that happened at Skate Canada since I didn't see a live stream. But if Brian Orser was mentioned as Javier's coach, I'd be surprised if most audience members didn't know that Brian Orser is a former Canadian champion and Olympic silver medalist. Honorary Canadian or not, Javier Fernandez is a talented skater deserving of his win. I read somewhere that Javier (from Spain) was treating Hanyu (from Japan) like a younger brother when they recently competed at Finlandia Trophy. And, I also remember reading that Brian Orser is like a "father figure" to Javier (and perhaps now to Yuzuru too, I suppose). One big happy family.
Speaking of Elene, it's too bad about her poor showing in the FS, but I think it came from the pressure of being first for the first time -- I think the commentators mentioned that this was the first time she's won a short program GP ever. But she looks quite good out there. She looks very fit and I expect she will improve throughout the season!