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    I bet you read that on FSU. lol QUOTE]
    Then what on the earth are they still watching this thing if everything got decided well ahead??
    Well of course there is always that satisfaction of being able to say, I told you so...

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    I'm with Doris on this one. I don't like the can-can for a polka, they skated it okay technically but did not really have a great polka expression - due mostly to the can-can music.

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    I thought Chock & Bates vastly improved especially in speed. They will challenge Hubbell & Donohue for the 3rd spot at Nationals.

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    Me , too , in regard to P/B's CanCan. It made the whole polka section just seem off to me . I don't know enough to be able to watch closely and keep count.. ..and it seemed off-time enough that I would have thought they'd score poorly in the polka..

    It also bothered me that they had to slow the music down. Haven't seen any of the FDs yet, but didn't care for their Stones program from the French Masters , so I have reservations ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    P/B looked strong and confident. That said, the program clearly doesn't work the way it's currently constructed. It slows down almost immediately, and the Yankee Polka seems almost dirgelike due to the timing issues.
    Besides those problems, I think there is a real cognitive disconnect between the can-can and the polka. Now I can buy D/W's transposition of ballet music into a polka program, because I can imagine those happy villagers actually dancing the polka, but not for one minute can I believe that the can-can dancers of the Folies Bergere are going to get up and dance an exuberant--or in this case, an almost dirge-like--polka. Holy cognitive dissonance, Batman! It's not an organic concept--it's a gimmick.
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    I'm always unwilling to criticize the timing of dancers at CoC, because most years, the audio and video feeds are not well synchronized. I wait for the British Eurosport version, because they generally do a pretty good job of fixing the feed prior to broadcast.

    And may I say that the ISU should ban those Sky Cam shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'm always unwilling to criticize the timing of dancers at CoC, because most years, the audio and video feeds are not well synchronized. I wait for the British Eurosport version, because they generally do a pretty good job of fixing the feed prior to broadcast.

    And may I say that the ISU should ban those Sky Cam shots


    Yes please!
    Also, the cameramen and the person who decides which feeds are shown when during the performances at CoC should all be shot!
    Showing those up close shots so often really annoys me - also, why do they change shots so much? It gets me dizzy!

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    May I add, as a note to CoC camerapeople: a lift is not the best time to go in for a closeup. Just sayin'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'm always unwilling to criticize the timing of dancers at CoC, because most years, the audio and video feeds are not well synchronized. I wait for the British Eurosport version, because they generally do a pretty good job of fixing the feed prior to broadcast.

    And may I say that the ISU should ban those Sky Cam shots
    It is the Director who tells the cameramen how to shoot the program, so it is he/she who deserves the blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeakAnkles View Post
    May I add, as a note to CoC camerapeople: a lift is not the best time to go in for a closeup. Just sayin'...
    Yep - in the SD, they do a closeup on Dima's face while he's lifting Ekaterina!

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    FYI- Generally speaking, the host country provides the feed. The Director of the TV company providing the feed sits outside the arena in a trailer with lots of technical equipment. Earlier the Director watches the practices and makes notes. Once the competition begns, the director then instructs the cameramen on how to position the camera and take the shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'm always unwilling to criticize the timing of dancers at CoC, because most years, the audio and video feeds are not well synchronized. I wait for the British Eurosport version, because they generally do a pretty good job of fixing the feed prior to broadcast.

    And may I say that the ISU should ban those Sky Cam shots
    Yes, especially during the death spirals in pairs and the pattern dances!! I couldn't understand if the positions and/or the steps were good or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Yes, especially during the death spirals in pairs and the pattern dances!! I couldn't understand if the positions and/or the steps were good or not...
    Also spins - sure you can see if their spin is well centered, but you can't see any positions or changes of position. It's awful.

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