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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderlen3000 View Post
    Mao got < on the 3F. Had she rotated fully, she will be in the lead. I would have put Li in the 3rd. She was underscored, still a solid score for fresh senior out of junior rank. Sad to see Korppi continue to get pretty point. =(

    Overall not a bad SP. Good to see only 3 points between 1st to 5th. Anything could happend. Gold will be a fight between Mao and Julia and the remaining three fighting for bronze. I just hope Korppi didn't get on podium with her usual 3 triples program over skater like Marai and Li who has more content.
    well Kiira usually implodes in FS unless she will get generous scores like in Finlandia
    Mirai or Zijun have a better chance of podium than Kiira

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderlen3000 View Post
    Mao got < on the 3F. Had she rotated fully, she will be in the lead.
    Yes, in SP. But in FS and total score it would hardly be so. She now too often URs her jumps.

    If Mao will become some-years-ago Mao (when she won the Worlds) - she will be better than Julia.

    Julia is better than Mao - that Mao whom we see now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderlen3000
    Yeah. If she just focus on 3F+3T, which is well within her reach and better chances of landing and rotating than 3F+3Lo or 3A.
    3F+3T, 3Lo, 2A is pretty competitive jumps content.
    That layout would be great, but Mao never had it with the 3-3T combos, although she was capable of 3F-3T before. She just seems to feel more comfortable with 3F-3Lo. If anything, I'd expect her to go back to that.
    I'm not saying she should let go of the 3A... it's a risk worth taking I guess, with it's huge base value. Even underrotated she's not losing much points compared to a 2A, if at all. It's just the question if she can manage to keep the rest of her performance on the same level with a (failed) 3A.

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    definitely Mao will be trying he 3A in her FS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
    Thank you! WOW!

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    LADIES SHORT PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT (Updated)

    1. Julia LIPNITSKAIA (RUS) - 63.06 Short Program
    2. Mao ASADA (JPN) - 62.89 Short Program
    3. Mirai NAGASU (USA) - 59.76 Short Program
    4. Kiira KORPI (FIN) - 59.69 Short Program
    5. Zijun LI (CHN) - 59.21 Short Program
    6. Amelie LACOSTE (CAN) - 57.43 Short Program
    7. Joshi HELGESSON (SWE) - 49.67 Short Program
    8. Sofia BIRYUKOVA (RUS) - 44.39 Short Program
    9. Ying ZHANG (CHN) - 43.38 Short Program
    10. Bingwa GENG (CHN) - 36.53 Short Program

    Thanks to Jackie Wong for providing the links to the videos provided by the YouTube user known as "Danny Loo"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Yes, in SP. But in FS and total score it would hardly be so. She now too often URs her jumps.

    If Mao will become some-years-ago Mao (when she won the Worlds) - she will be better than Julia.

    Julia is better than Mao - that Mao whom we see now.

    NO way in hell, there is nothing about yulia that's better then Mao, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and her crazy flexibility doesn't make her performance much better either. Yulia can count herself lucky to even be able to rotate her jumps at all with her height!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
    LADIES SHORT PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT (Updated)

    1. Julia LIPNITSKAIA (RUS) - 63.06 Short Program
    2. Mao ASADA (JPN) - 62.89 Short Program
    3. Mirai NAGASU (USA) - 59.76 Short Program
    4. Kiira KORPI (FIN) - 59.69 Short Program
    5. Zijun LI (CHN) - 59.21 Short Program
    6. Amelie LACOSTE (CAN) - 57.43 Short Program
    7. Joshi HELGESSON (SWE) - 49.67 Short Program
    8. Sofia BIRYUKOVA (RUS) - 44.39 Short Program
    9. Ying ZHANG (CHN) - 43.38 Short Program
    10. Bingwa GENG (CHN) - 36.53 Short Program

    Thanks to Jackie Wong for providing the links to the videos provided by the YouTube user known as "Danny Loo"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mary01 View Post
    NO way in hell, there is nothing about yulia that's better then Mao, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and her crazy flexibility doesn't make her performance much better either. Yulia can count herself lucky to even be able to rotate her jumps at all with her height!
    you seem to be bitter with Julia

    Julia has something that is called consistency while I agree she is not even close to Mao's S/S, Artistry and projection on the ice
    Julia did well for her first GP, Its not justt good skating that makes winners its consistency that is the key !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mary01
    NO way in hell, there is nothing about yulia that's better then Mao, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and her crazy flexibility doesn't make her performance much better either. Yulia can count herself lucky to even be able to rotate her jumps at all with her height!
    mary01, I'm a Mao fan just as you are, but this is really not true and unfair towards Julia... it's just disrespectful, and as a fellow Mao-Fan, I don't like reading it.
    Julia has harder techincal content and is more consistent than Mao is - although I don't agree she's an overall better skater, but that discussion is probably going to be pretty exhausting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mary01 View Post
    NO way in hell, there is nothing about yulia that's better then Mao, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and her crazy flexibility doesn't make her performance much better either. Yulia can count herself lucky to even be able to rotate her jumps at all with her height!
    Calm down! Mao has mature performance.

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    Well I'm not a massive fan of Mao's SP, why does she bother with Lori Nichol? This is pretty much the same program as Mirai's back in 2007-2008 (when it was way more age appropriate). Lori recycles too much, every now and again she comes up with something interesting like Kostner's programs last year but she phones it in a lot of the time.

    BUT i would have to say that Mao performs better than Julia, who is in desperate need of a TAT makeover (I like her, but no to that outfit, and no to that music). I'm sure Julia will do well here and make the GPF (the junior world champ always seems to), but I do hope Mao gets the top spot.

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    I was expecting so much more from Li Zijun, I love her and think she could be on the world podium at some point of her career, but the short program choreography wise was boring. There was next to nothing going on in between the technical elements and it was highlighted by how demanding the music is. Her short last year was much better and I feel if it was done as well as that one she could well have had the most enjoyable program of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu View Post
    mary01, I'm a Mao fan just as you are, but this is really not true and unfair towards Julia... it's just disrespectful, and as a fellow Mao-Fan, I don't like reading it.
    Julia has harder techincal content and is more consistent than Mao is - although I don't agree she's an overall better skater, but that discussion is probably going to be pretty exhausting.
    I doubt her consistency will persist with her jumps, unless she makes some serious changes fast very fast! and i stand by everything thing i said about her skating! it was my honest opinion....

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    Mao is a class on her own when we speak about flow and charisma. I just couldnt take my eyes off her. I would have her first!
    Mirai's program reminded me of the old joyful self, who choreographed her program? And I ve been watching Li since her first junior years, I m glad she is doing so well!
    Congrats to Julia on her first senior competition!

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