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    I think Mao's win was justified Julia is extremely promising and will be a threat in the final, I think. But she seemed quite tentative today! She *is* fourteen and in her JGP, she shouldn't be too hard on herself!

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    Lipnitskaya really needs to work on her jumps when she's nervous like that--almost every jump landed had zero flow out and was bent over at the waist. She lost a lot of speed near the end of the program as well, particularly on the step sequence.

    I'm glad that placed behind Asada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evangeline View Post
    Lipnitskaya really needs to work on her jumps--almost every jump landed had zero flow out and was bent over at the waist. She lost a lot of speed near the end of the program as well, particularly on the step sequence.
    She does need to work some on her jumps but I do want to point out out that her jumps actually were way off tonight compared to how they generally are. They are usually much better.

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    Ladies Free Skate - Result

    Overall

    1 Mao ASADA JPN 181.76 2 1
    2 Julia LIPNITSKAIA RUS 177.92 1 2
    3 Kiira KORPI FIN 169.86 4 3
    4 Mirai NAGASU USA 163.46 3 4
    5 Zijun LI CHN 160.06 5 5
    6 Amelie LACOSTE CAN 135.46 6 9
    7 Joshi HELGESSON SWE 134.43 7 7
    8 Ying ZHANG CHN 130.65 9 6
    9 Sofia BIRYUKOVA RUS 127.36 8 8

    Free Skate Scores

    1 Mao ASADA JPN 118.87 54.53   64.34 8.14 7.75 7.96 8.11 8.25 0.00 #9
    2 Julia LIPNITSKAIA RUS 114.86 57.43   57.43 7.21 7.00 7.32 7.25 7.11 0.00 #10
    3 Kiira KORPI FIN 110.17 51.03   59.14 7.43 7.04 7.32 7.54 7.64 0.00 #7
    4 Mirai NAGASU USA 103.70 45.89   57.81 7.39 6.96 7.25 7.32 7.21 0.00 #8
    5 Zijun LI CHN 100.85 51.58   51.27 6.61 6.21 6.32 6.54 6.36 2.00 #6
    6 Ying ZHANG CHN 87.27 46.97   42.30 5.61 4.96 5.36 5.29 5.21 2.00 #2
    7 Joshi HELGESSON SWE 84.76 38.16   47.60 6.04 5.64 6.04 6.04 6.00 1.00 #4
    8 Sofia BIRYUKOVA RUS 82.97 37.07   45.90 6.21 5.50 5.50 5.86 5.61 0.00 #3
    9 Amelie LACOSTE CAN 78.03 31.06   48.97 6.46 6.11 5.71 6.25 6.07 2.00 #5
    WD Bingwa GENG CHN                     #1

    Great win for Mao!!

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    Julia was incredible to me! Good she got 2 place. Now she knows she isn't invincible - she has things to work on. She could have easily won if she did what she CAN do. And that's a good sign that even with errors she can still make the 2 place finish

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    Yes, Julia was really off tonight (but here's just morning!), she almost fell in the 2A+3T, which is usually a strong combo for her, she didn't make any mistake in it during the past season... Mao's win was the correct result: the quality of her program was far ahed Julia's, the difference in the PCS should have been higher, I think deserved her score, Mao's should have been 66-67! I'm sad Mirai didn't get a medal, Kiira's program was good, but not THAT good, I think she was a bit overscored...

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    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue View Post
    Julia was incredible to me! Good she got 2 place. Now she knows she isn't invincible - she has things to work on. She could have easily won if she did what she CAN do. And that's a good sign that even with errors she can still make the 2 place finish
    and she will work more on her transitions to increase more her PCS, Julia still has chance to get to the GPF

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    Omg@ Mirai's technical score being lower than Ying Zhang's



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    Last edited by ortemis; 11-03-2012 at 05:16 AM.

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    If that's how Julia skates when she is "off"... Watch out, World! She really does have a spirit of a champion

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    I usually don't like Julia's style, but I thought she would be the 1st since she attempted difficult jumps. She was underscored compared to Mao, I think.

    Lovely skate from Mao, but I enjoyed her performance at Japan Open more. The music suits her very well. Much better than her SP. Generous score considering no 3-3, 3Lz, and 2ft landing on combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Star View Post
    If that's how Julia skates when she is "off"... Watch out, World! She really does have a spirit of a champion
    Congarts to Mao deserving win
    a little off on her FS standard but I'm sure Julia will be better by her next GP, she is a very diligent girl

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    Protocols are up

    Asada got << on the 3T in her 2A+3T, but also both her flips got <. So she only got credit for 3 triple jumps. Also the 2nd +2Lo got <

    Lipnitskaia got < on her 3Lz in her 3Lz+3T

    Nagasu got << on both 3T and 3Lo, plus < on 3Lz, both 3F's and a +2Lo. That explains her low TES

    Li got < on a 3Lz and 3F on which she fell

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    Miss Asada was overscored in PCS. A 64 for that mediocre skate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    I'm sad Mirai didn't get a medal, Kiira's program was good, but not THAT good, I think she was a bit overscored...
    Protocols are out. The score was fair. Look at Mirai's jump quality: almost every jump was unclean. Kiira never gets "e" and quite rarely < or <<. I wish she would leave her flip away. I remember she has made it cleanly probably twice during past 5 years.

    Mao was fantastic. But Julia... techincally just amazing but the rest... blah. She could give so much more with a better program. And I wish she would leave those unmeaningful leg lifts away. And I wonder the judge. Somebody gave her 8.25 from transitions. 8.25?! She has just circling and circling between elements. And besides that - she had all the jumps in a row, just one FCSp4 between. Coreography 7.25, just give me a break. I thought I understand this sport but apparently not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naan View Post
    I usually don't like Julia's style, but I thought she would be the 1st since she attempted difficult jumps. She was underscored compared to Mao, I think.

    Lovely skate from Mao, but I enjoyed her performance at Japan Open more. The music suits her very well. Much better than her SP. Generous score considering no 3-3, 3Lz, and 2ft landing on combination.
    I agree that Julia was undermarked and had her name been Kaetlyn Osmond instead of Julia Lipnitskaya, she would have scored 120+!. However, Mao was the deserved winner, but I remain concerned about Mao's technical frailties.

    In terms of Julia, the fact that she didn't win on her GP debut will probably be a good thing in the long term. It will make her even more determined and incentivised to improve further. She is still only 14 after all.

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