I loved the Bollywood theme of Davis and White (with which they were second eventually at the last Olympics), Caro's lovely FP last year while I also enjoyed Takahashi's from last year. The overall winner is still Yagudin's Winter SP in 2002 though, and I also loved Alexander Abt's SP in the same year. But these last two are already too old for this particular thread. Even the Bollywood theme is probably (although does the WC 2006 already count for the new quadrennial?).
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I like this program, but I wish she had used a different cut. Basically, it's an extended version of Baiul's SP, with the same cuts. I'm glad she didn't do the tragic route, but I think she could've used a different cut, whilst avoiding the tragic ending.
Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu
I remember last year, people were saying that Asada would make a wonderful white swan, and Kim would make a wonderful black swan. It looks like we got half of our wish!
I got my whole wish, i wanted Mao to give a uniq Swan Lake and i got it, and i'm totally in love with it!
Originally Posted by blue dog
Programs that I will still be talking about 20 years from now
Caroline Zhang's 2011-2012 Short Program 3R-3R. ENOUGH SAID!
Leah Keiser's 2010-2011 Long Program Best Program Layout Ever
Alissa Cziny's 2010-2011 Long Program soothing music, excellent line
Savchenko and Szolkowy 2010-2011 Long Program They really brought The Pink Panther to life
Angela Wang's 2011-2012 Long Program This program was a high scorer, and was a huge part of making Angela Wang relavant
Does anybody agree?
To me, it seems that there is far too much enthusiasm for most of the programs we have seen in the past three seasons. I have watched skating in detail since 1967, and in regard to what programs will be added to my memories of skating that last 20+ years, I can only include two from the past three seasons. These two are memorable for me because they are choreographic masterpieces coupled with wonderful music and good performances.
1. Kostner's Prelude to Afternoon of a Faun,
2. Moskvina's Clare de Lune for Kavaguti/Smirnoff.
To me, no other pieces of moving art have been created that would warrant remembering them 20 years later. For example, who can forget Lyra Angelica? Peggy Flemming's 1967 program? Janet Lynn's Afternoon of a Faun? The Protopopov's Moonlight Sonata? T/D Bolero? Bezic's SP for Boitano? These programs were art, and that is why we remember them. The two programs above can join this group. I can't think of any other programs, including those of Dai and Chan, YuNa and Asada, S/S, D/W or V/M that should be remembered like these classics.
But, time will tell.
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1. I like her Shostakovich SP more because of the insane difficulty of skating to that music. Kostner has had quite a few excellent programs; I also have a soft spot for her Canon in D, Riders on the Storm and Dumky Trio, though these are all older, of course.
Originally Posted by Sk8Boi
2. That is an underrated program from a currently underrated pair. They are vastly more enjoyable than V/T, who are wasting their talent on horrible programs that won't be remembered 20 minutes from now, let alone 20 years.
The ending is the same as Baiul's but Oksana's didn't use the familiar part that is at the beginning of Mao's program. I do like both the cuts and the program. I do not think that Mao brings half of what Oksana brought to her program in terms of artistic impact. I also think Sasha Cohen's Swan Lake is going to be more remembered than Mao's.
Originally Posted by blue dog
Well, check it on YouTube! We can see which are legendary..
Thumbs up on K/S's Claire de Lune. That is definitely a signature program for them and very memorable.
Originally Posted by Sk8Boi
Originally Posted by Cherryy
I think Yu-na's Arirang LP might have become a classic if she'd competed it for a whole season. I thought it was a beautiful, moving program even just the one time we saw it at Worlds. And I think it would have really developed if she'd competed it more. (She may have performed it again in shows that I'm not aware of, but for most of us, the Worlds performance was our only viewing.)
I totally agree with your selections there. Hanyu's Romeo and Juliet FS was really special, easily my fav last year and likely for a very long time. He was at the right age, with the right package and he totally gelled with that piece of work like fish to water. I loved it since its Exhibition stage early in the season and just thought wow this kid absolutely got it and surely will go far. Like you, I've enjoyed Weaver and Poje's Je Suis Malade; Dai's Blues for Klooks and Jeremy's Muse were all among my favs. I will also add Patrick's Elegie in E gala program as well. They all defined the type of skating I really appreciate, something that pushes their portfolio progressively, athletically, technically, artistically, philosophically and musically without feeling artificial or contrived. Although I'd argue for a program that will last beyond 20 years, some good competition results must in support, if not that, then some special and unforgettable occasion will be required. Such as Michelle Kwan's field of Gold.
Originally Posted by pitterpatter
In general, it is no secret I am have a huge fan of Yuna Kim and thought she really brought something unique and brilliant with her: Lark Ascending, Tango De Roxanne, Danse Macabre, Gershwin, Bond, Arirang, All of Me etc. which all defined the best of Ladies figure skating during this era of COP format style programs, at least to me. It shows despite its limitations, it can still produce some spectacular programs that has a good balance technical prowess and artistry with the right skater. I consider her among the most musical and versatile skaters around, and the fact these programs wins competitions is just as amazing. She is one of the few rare skaters that conforms to my personal idea of the 'ying and the yang' that makes up the sport and arts (Mixture of eastern philosophy:'Truth, Goodness & Beauty', and western school of art/design appraisal: 'forms, function, concept, process, aesthetics, musicality') and what construed as a worthy artistic program. I admit, these strict criteria probably have little to do COP requirement or what attract skating fans to the sport initially, but I personally think these are the very key ingredients to win over new audience's heart to the sport. In the rare occasions where the stars aligns, these programs recalls big Eureka moments that are worth celebrating and rejoice.
This year I will add V&M's Carmen to that list.
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Bolero by T&D
Carmen by Katarina Witt and Debi Thomas
Salome- Michelle Kwan
Man In The Iron Mask- Alexei Yagudin
Lyra Angelica- Michelle Kwan.
Tango de roxanne- Yu-Na Kim.
Turandot- Shizuka Arakawa.
Conquest- Todd Eldredge.
Daphnis et Chloe- Sarah Hughes.
Malaguena by Sasha Cohen.
Dark Eyes- Sasha Cohen.
The Swan- Johnny Weir.
Scheherazade- Evan Lysacek.
Blues on Klook- Daisuke Takahashi.
The Black Swan- Ashley Wagner.
Samson and Delilah- Ashley Wagner.
Phantom of the Opera- Patrick Chan.
Piano Concerto 2011 Worlds LP Takahiko Kozuka.
1989 Worlds LP Midori Ito.
Die Fliedermaus- D&W.
Love Story by S&P.
Concerto de Aranjuez- Michelle Kwan.
Rachmaninoff by Chen Lu.
The Rainbow-Tara Lipinski.
Pina by S&S.
Otonal- Maria Butyrskaya.
Scene D'Amour-Maria Butyrskaya.
The Nutcracker- Xue Shen and Hongbo Zhao.
Turandot- Shen and Zhao.
East of Eden-Michelle Kwan.
Rachmaninoff- Michelle Kwan.
Prelude to an Afternoon Faun-Janet Lynn.
The Mission by Miki Ando.
Swan Lake by Mao Asada.
Masquerade Waltz-Mao Asada.
Winter- Alexei Yagudin.
O by Akiko Suzuki.
Hungarian Rhapsody by Akiko Suzuki.
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Honestly I think the only programs we will remember down the line are:
Virtue and Moir's Mahler
Davis and White Samson and Delilah/Die Flaudermauss
Yu-na's Bond Girl
maybe Kostner's Prelude to a Faun...it deserves to be remembered but fear it won't if she dosen't medal at/win worlds again to solidify her place in the history books.