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    I was wondering when someone would mention Yuna's Gershwin program at the Vancouver Olympics...easily the most memorable (for me), not to mention a 150.06 FS score.

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    ^That's because the original question was about this quadrennium, after Vancouver. But I think some are randomly choosig the period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverFish View Post
    I was wondering when someone would mention Yuna's Gershwin program at the Vancouver Olympics...easily the most memorable (for me), not to mention a 150.06 FS score.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    Honestly I think the only programs we will remember down the line are:
    Virtue and Moir's Mahler
    Davis and White Samson and Delilah/Die Flaudermauss
    Yu-na's Bond Girl

    maybe Kostner's Prelude to a Faun...it deserves to be remembered but fear it won't if she dosen't medal at/win worlds again to solidify her place in the history books.

    The original post called for programs of this quad (post-2010) though ... Otherwise (let's face it), we'd be looking at an influx of Yuna mentions.

    Honestly, I haven't really been following FS as much as I could've in the past three years, but I really liked Mao's "Scheherazade" program. Whether it's a 20+ year mention or not, I quite liked the choreography and her skating fit the whimsical nature of the program well.
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    For me Hanyu skate Romeo at world last year, he totally comsume in his program. I don't know how to explain but there is really something special on that skate; it like he say "don't worry about me, no matter what happen I will rise from ashes" with the tsuanmi, rink destroy, injuries and that 3A -3T after he fall make it even more special.

    Yes, I'm fan of him, but don't think the feeling he give me on that skate will ever be repeated.

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    I haven't gone back to read all the posts, so I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but Abbott's Exogenesis from last season.

    I could be a bit biased since he's my favourite skater, but I think Shawn Sawyer's Mad Hatter routine is quite memorable.

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    Gordeeva - Grinkov - Moonlight Sonata, Vocalise, Westside story - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qWW-Ok4V0E
    Dushneys - Mission
    Bolero - Torvill and Dean
    Grishuk Platov- 1997 Free Dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5zK32mEFfk and 1998 FD Memorial - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXNmarKjyiY
    Katarina Witt - Carmen
    Oksana Baiul - Swan SP 1994 and Exhibition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zKfZVurJY
    Krylova - Ovsyannicov - Carmen, Malaguena http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwiQi9Wdt-A
    Bourne-Kraatz - Riverdance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZxdCZUAPjo
    Berezhnaya-Siharulidze - Charlie Chaplin FD and Exhibition
    Berezhnaya-Siharulidze - 2002 Olympics SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJUcgMZMO4
    Annissina - Peizerat - Carmina Burana, 2002 Olympics SP and LP, 1998 Romeo and Julie, Time to say goodbye Exhibition, Notre Dam de Paris Exhibition, Malaguena Exhibition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsvq-...ature=related; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVKlJ...eature=related
    Totmyanina-Marinin - 2006 Olympics FD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zytM...eature=related
    Gershwin-Yu-Na Kim.
    Tango de roxanne- Yu-Na Kim.
    Turandot- Shizuka Arakawa.
    Dark Eyes- Sasha Cohen.
    Plyushenko - Tribute to Vaslav Nijinsky, Criminal Peterburgh, Godfather and all other routines
    The Black Swan- Ashley Wagner.
    Elena Sokolova -Samson and Delilah 2003 SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFDbTmMkoU
    Davis and White - Samson and Delilah, The Fliedermaus, the current Giselle SP
    Drobyazko-Vanagas - Phantom of the Opera
    Denkova - Staviski - 2004 FD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJuCv...eature=related, 2007 FD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQO8bYFgJSo, 2003 Worlds FD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOGBMKaPiu8
    Yukari Nakano - Memoirs of a Geisha SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5YCi_TwuZo, Giselle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh3xKviCJPk, 2008 Worlds LP - she was the best, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeSwUNLqFkE, Harem 2009 Exhibition -
    Irina Slutzkaya - Toska 2002 OG LP
    Rachmaninoff by Chen Lu.
    The Rainbow-Tara Lipinski.
    S&S - Cirque de Soleil, Shindler's List, Pink Panther, Pina
    The Nutcracker- Xue Shen and Hongbo Zhao.
    The Mission and Cleopatra by Miki Ando.
    Masquerade Waltz SP 2010 Olympics - Mao Asada.
    Sheherezade SP - Mao Asada
    Carolina Kostner - Worlds 2012 LP
    Ashley Wagner - Black Swan
    Volosozhar Trankov - Black Swan
    Virtue Moir - Mahler, Pink Floyd 2009 LP, Carmen 2012
    Alissa Czisny - Doctor Zhivago 2009 Worlds, 2010/2011 FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXK3i98momk, Moon River Exhibition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM0c16_lYtQ
    Alena Leonova - 2012 Worlds SP
    Weaver Poje - 2012 Worlds Je Suis Malade FD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbiC0GXkj1Y
    Ilinykh-Katsalapov - Worlds Juniors 2010 FD - Shindler's List - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vjobRSN3Sk
    Capellini-Lanotte - La Strada FD 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTwCZHX7cew

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    Frankly V/M's Carmen isn't one that will go well with the general audience. Some of the moves are just absurd (like that strange synchronized step that looked like they were both out as vampires getting ready for a bite...). I get what they are going for, but I think it's rather a soulless attempt at avant-garde. Lifts are impressive though and I will remember those for a few years to come.

    I think W/P's je suis malade will stick. B/S's new FD will too. Dai's klook for sure, and I hope Mao's Swan(even though strangely my favorite program of hers this quad was the Tango SD).

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    From this quad so far, maybe Patrick Chan's Canadian Nats FS to Phantom of the Opera, 2011. There have been others I enjoyed very much but 20+ years is a long time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverFish View Post
    I was wondering when someone would mention Yuna's Gershwin program at the Vancouver Olympics...easily the most memorable (for me), not to mention a 150.06 FS score.
    Yuna was good but wasn't it 140.06 or wow she was overmarked - really overmarked.

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    150.06 (it was easily 140+)

    1. I do think Yu Na's skate will be spoken about in epic terms, but not the programs themselves, if that makes sense. It's one of those skates that inspire hyperbole in those who got to be around at the time (and I still think her trainer must've dislocated his shoulder!). But I've valorized that night enough.

    2. Similarly, I don't think that Chan's POTO was a great program, but his skate at Nationals is, simply speaking, an out of body/out of mind type skate. I love listening to the earbud commentary, not for the commentary - which is typical pro-National stuff, but for the little peals of delight the trio give throughout. I doubt he'll ever skate this good again (and he's come close), but I almost don't mind. I love the woman in pink (she stands up really early to applaud, sits back down, then stands up again and she applauds above her head. It's hilarious and cute and wonderful. For me, personally, it was unforgettable because I just didn't know what to expect. He had a "clean" SP (but with a 2A, so no falls, but points left on the table), and he had yet to skate his long program great yet. When he finished his final spin, I was pretty much standing and cheering. I knew he was good, but I didn't know he was that good! I think that moment really redeemed the season for him in a considerable way (and makes all poorer efforts even more disappointing, admittedly).

    3. I think a question that should probably be engaged is why exactly do you remember a program for twenty years? What about it sticks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prettykeys View Post
    From this quad so far, maybe Patrick Chan's Canadian Nats FS to Phantom of the Opera, 2011. There have been others I enjoyed very much but 20+ years is a long time...
    Yeah, that one! I remember that night so well since it was the same night Shawn delivered his awesome Mad Hatter routine.

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    I remember when I was a newbie figure skating fan, I would spend hours on youtube looking at videos of nearly all MK videos, T/D Bolero, Duchenay's Missing, Janet Lynn's Faun, B/S City of Lights, all because you guys kept talking about these fantastic programs. Fans of individual skaters may talk about various programs because may be among their best work ie Dice-K Klook, D/W Fleidermaus, AW Black Swan, Sawyer's Mad Hatter, S/S Pina (granted Takahashi, D/W S/S and many other skaters had what I consider their signature pieces among the previous Olympic quad anyway). But, I don't see any of these as iconic enough for us to be hyping these programs up so much that a future yet to be born figure skating fan to search for these old videos. I think the closest may end up being Black Swan. Fortunately, we still have 1 more season, hopefully enough time to give us an iconic program of this Olympic quad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prettykeys View Post
    From this quad so far, maybe Patrick Chan's Canadian Nats FS to Phantom of the Opera, 2011. There have been others I enjoyed very much but 20+ years is a long time...
    20 years goes by darn quick. Heck its almost 20 years since Tonya vs Nancy and its 24 years since the Battle of the Brians. (And I can still remember U&Z's program from 1988 Europeans. It's amazing what the mind will retain, and what it will forget, over 20 years.

    And if a lot of people fondly remember a program and mention it, some newbies will likely look it up, even if when they watch it they are and have no idea what the big deal is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noidont View Post
    Frankly V/M's Carmen isn't one that will go well with the general audience. Some of the moves are just absurd (like that strange synchronized step that looked like they were both out as vampires getting ready for a bite...). I get what they are going for, but I think it's rather a soulless attempt at avant-garde. Lifts are impressive though and I will remember those for a few years to come.

    I think W/P's je suis malade will stick. B/S's new FD will too. Dai's klook for sure, and I hope Mao's Swan(even though strangely my favorite program of hers this quad was the Tango SD).

    The definition and the worth of Avant Garde art were never meant to be measured by general audiences's taste. Absurdity to the norm, is a golden nugget to some connoisseurs. If it moved or changed the hearts and minds of fellow knowledgeable artists/experts/judges/audience and pushed for progress for tomorrow, then it served its purpose. Imagine the public outcry when they view impressionist painting for the first time, not made of strokes, tones, gradients or shapes but dabs of paint? Salmon pink next to indigo blues and lime greens that defined the new techniques of the new impressionist art movement.

    Given Tat who I respect a great deal just did a standing ovation for T/S at COR, I'd say it is far from soulless or pointless. That Russian dame's blood boils for passionate art, and it is a great validation and respect consider it is Carmen in Russia from a Canadian pair. Her work might not always been fully realized with the right partnership, but she sure knows her stuff. On some level, I find it utterly amusing you describe this remarkable Carmen as soulless, yet seems to love Mao's Amnesia Grey Swan and Tango programs (Nickelodeon Ice Princess 2pm). It totally confirms a few things in my mind about general public taste that I can only described as 'Hmm... interesting.' Tessa was Carmen in her program, but where's the black and white swan of swan lake the music? And where's the Tango in tango? Mao has had great programs in the past and I still think Grand Bell of Moscow and Jupiter are easily her best work and effort to date. Those I will easily remember in the next 20 years.

    Then again, I may know nothing. I still don't get the public obsession with Gangnam style, it being one of the many moments that indiciate I am clearly out of touch with reality.
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    To me, there have been many memorable moments -- of the anecdotal incidents, great performances, impressive victories or defeats, or sheer excellence. And yes, 20 years can pass by quick, and I think I’d remember them all like they were a few corners back.

    Of the current skaters, I hope we get to see more great programs from Patrick Chan. While he might have little room at this point to improve on his technique or skating skills, I think he could become an even better performer.

    I expect more great programs from Yu-Na Kim and Virtue/Moir, too. Since Vancouver, they have matured even further as a performer, IMO. They are meticulously skilled, enough to interpret and display the theme and the atmosphere of the program, even without excessive emoting.

    About Gangnam Style, I can get why it’s a big hit, but still can’t understand why it’s become such a frenzy. I guess the singer himself wouldn’t get it either, since he has been doing the similar stuffs for years.

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