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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Why interesting? It's not the first time when someone beats Chan in TES but ends up lower than him. Nothing new here. Unfortunately.
    Just initial real-time reaction....I know it's been done before..

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    Quote Originally Posted by emdee View Post
    His skating was breathtaking.
    You are too easy to be breathtaken. Some others with much stronger breathing ability wants the real stuff from Men, like a quad combo for a start. Or at least a 3A in combo. All the rest is just not Men's worthy.

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    I'm not a Chan the person fan but I love his short program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    I wonder if Frank sometimes thinks screw this i'm to old to have to deal with this crap i'm done.
    I thought I was the only one that was thinking this. The thought use to cross my mind when he was coaching Mirai last year and Ten.

    For once I agree with others ... we can always enjoy PCS from Chan. His skating was breathtaking.
    I agree. This is why despite Chan himself I still really enjoy his skating and programs.
    Last edited by lavender; 11-09-2012 at 11:36 AM.

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    When will be the time that Brezina could execute that 4S?! I'm getting impatient.

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    Chan won the SP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    You are too easy to be breathtaken. Some others with much stronger breathing ability wants the real stuff from Men, like a quad combo for a start. Or at least a 3A in combo. All the rest is just not Men's worthy.
    That's your own standard. Quad is still belonging to men and men only, at least in competitions.

    I'm glad that Patrick did a perfect 4T and a perfect 3A. But of course, it's not enough. a quad combo was/is his goal.

    I wished Patrick didn't do that 1T, so he could add a 3T with 3Lz later.
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    Question: Why did Chan plan a quad combo instead of a 3Lz3T in the second half of the program to gather more bonus points?

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    Base Value:

    Chan- 37.90
    Menshov- 40.30
    Kozuka- 38.91
    Bush- 37.80
    Gachi- 38.20

    Chan' BS is lower than not Menshov's only but also Kozuka's and Gachi's. And slightly higher than Bush's . But come on people. Who is Chan and who is Bush. Surely not a WC. All the rest is manipulations with GOE and PCS. Been there, seen that.


    Congrats to Kostya for real Men's skating, and being the only one who did the planned content. Waiting for FS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatinginbc View Post
    Question: Why did Chan plan a quad combo instead of a 3Lz3T in the second half of the program to gather more bonus points?
    That's a good question to ask his "primary coach".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    I'm glad that Patrick did a perfect 4T
    What competition have you been watching? He got -3 GOE for what you call "perfect 4T". Oh well.

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    MEN'S SHORT PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT

    1. Patrick CHAN (CAN) - 85.44 Short Program
    2. Konstantin MENSHOV (RUS) - 76.73
    3. Takahiko KOZUKA (JPN) - 76.34
    4. Zhan BUSH (RUS) - 74.50
    5. Artur GACHINSKI (RUS) - 74.07
    6. Michal BREZINA (CZE) - 73.83 Short Program
    7. Richard DORNBUSH (USA) - 67.44
    8. Nobunari ODA (JPN) - 63.18
    9. Denis TEN (KAZ) - 59.42
    10. Johnny WEIR (USA) - 57.47
    Last edited by Mao88; 11-09-2012 at 11:58 AM.

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    Big big congratulations to Menshov and Bush for their clean skates! They must be thrilled to skate that good in front of home crowd.
    I really liked Artur's new skating style, even though he fell on a quad. He skates 'elegant' than ever.

    Except these home town boys, a bit of a disappointing comp for me I guess... And sad sad for Johnny...

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    Yay Patrick Chan! I was never a fan of his, but I saw his programs last year on YouTube and was absolutely blown away. I'll have to watch these later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    What competition have you been watching? He got -3 GOE for what you call "perfect 4T". Oh well.
    He got -3GOE for the combo 4T-1T, but his 4T was perfect.

    Extraordinary! Patrick has tucked all the spins into the music at the end perfectly! If you'd like to use "Chanflation", go ahead. The "Chanflation" was rightfully earned!
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