2012 Cup of Russia Ladies' FS

[drivingmissdaisy]

I think it's not fair to attribute Kiira's PCS to her beauty. She really moves across the ice in an elegant, regal way and has the most beautiful lines of anyone entering and exiting the triple jumps. No mule kick, hunched-over back or flailing.

[FSGMT]

I'm so sad for Valentina, but so happy with the overall result: so happy Kiira won this! And Gracie , this is the first time I liked her program artistically! With the second lutz her score would have been enough to win...And Zawadzki... She skated the FS well for the first time in her senior career, I think Why Murakami's toeloop received no value (sorry if you have already discussed this!) Sotnikova...

[Enidan]

Can you also tell me who will win the next Superbowl and what the winning numbers in the lottery might be?

Ashley Wagner is a wonderful skater, but ice is slippery and there are no guarantees.

It's Ashley Wagner. Not michelle kwan or sasha cohen. So, no blame on ice slippery

[FSGMT]

I think it's not fair to attribute Kiira's PCS to her beauty. She really moves across the ice in an elegant, regal way and has the most beautiful lines of anyone entering and exiting the triple jumps. No mule kick, hunched-over back or flailing.

I agree, but I don't think she deserved more than 60, it wasn't really an "emotional" one, I preferred both her I got rythm and Evita programs...

[Enidan]

I agree, but I don't think she deserved more than 60, it wasn't really an "emotional" one, I preferred both her I got rythm and Evita programs...

Why can't Kiira deserved more than 60? when the below average looking, meo asida got more than 60 with only 2 triple jump?

[aftertherain]

I don't see any hate of Kiira here. Some people think that sometimes she gets overscored in PCS. So? It doesn't make them be sinners or haters. What I see is the attemp of Kiira die-hard fans to shut up those with critics by putting the labels on them, such as "haters", or "sinners", or "not beautiful", or "not talented", or... . Yawn.

I do want you to find comments that have expressed "hate" for the skaters, actually, because my eyes must have glossed right over them. I've seen plenty of "I hate that she/he was overscored here," but that is entirely different from malice.

To let`s talk and ForeverFish, I believe this is the quote IleK was talking about earlier when she ranted about posters hating on Kiira.

GRACIE GOT ROBBED
MIRAI GOT ROBBED

EVERYONE GOT ROBBED BY her


hahahahah i love to hate of Kiira

Just thought I should let you two know. Regardless of whether or not this is "trolling", it was still said.

(Whether it's debatable to say that "love to hate" = hate, I'll leave that up to you.)

[Jammers]

What a charming post. You do realize that the cold war is over, right? And that ladies is traditionally not Russia's strongest discipline? I think it's clear that the Russian skaters (please don't call them "girls") were not at their best, so you can argue that they kicked their own butts, so to speak. And last I checked, the only skater in Moscow who qualified for the GPF is not an American. Gold and Zawadzki have a lot of promise, but they also have a ways to go. And even the obviously talented Ashley Wagner has yet to medal at Worlds.

I love that a mature, elegant Kiira Korpi came to Moscow and showed the teenagers who it's done. Perhaps with more experience, some of the younger skaters in the CoR field can deliver the sort of performances she does.

Korpi has been on the Senior GP circuit for 7 years now so she should be better right now over Gracie or Agnes. But Korpi hasn't exactly been a dominate skater internationally for all these years and Agnes and Gracie have age and time on their side.

[koatcue]

Enidan is an obvious troll...I suppose all this talk about Ashley here is just to repulse people from her. These high words as "She gotta win it all!" I mean.
As for Gracie, once again.I think that's a pity SHE doesn't have another gp..Talking about her perspectives,I think she's gonna be fine
And Jammers, haters gonna hate.

[FSGMT]

Why can't Kiira deserved more than 60? when the below average looking, meo asida got more than 60 with only 2 triple jump?

She has beautiful skating skills and she's so elegant and mature, but there weren't many transitions and I personally didn't like the choreography a lot, it looked quite "empty" in some parts...

[lavender]

I'm happy for the medalist and all but so far I'm having a hard time watching their whole programs. I find myself getting bored. I just find the men's programs more interesting. Oh and CZ...man I feel for her. I just don't understand her skating skills, her movement and her speed. I just want someone to help her. Then I think of all the success she had in juniors and I just feel for her all over again.

[Mathman]

...below average looking, meo asida...

Hey! Leave my Meo alone! Ms. Asida is pretty as a picture, thank you very much!

[brightphoton]

Caroline's flip is very good right now.
Her loop is reliable.
Her layback spin is good.
Her costume is pleasing, I like the flowing purple fabric.

uhhh ...

[Blades of Passion]

How ironic that Korpi finally lands a Triple Flip (albeit a very weak one) after all these years, along with a Lutz and 3-3, but falters twice on her best jump, the 3Loop. Oh well. I do think she deserved to win this competition, as she displayed the best speed and edge quality and overall presentation in this LP and her jumping was just as good as anyone else here.

Grace is coming along nicely. She has a great energy and joy and is really getting better at expressing the music. I think this program is somewhat incoherent, though. There are good aspects but as a whole it doesn't come together from beginning to end.

Murakami was a lot better at Skate Canada, but still a bit undermarked here. I'd have her on the podium. She absolutely should be going to the GPF (via 1st place at Skate Canada and 3rd place here), but she'll almost surely be losing her spot now. Christina Gao would have to place lower than 5th at TEB for Murakami to have a chance and that's just not going to happen.

[R.D.]

Whoa, some o' y'all are giving the old Kwaniacs a run for their money hostility!!

First off, extending my congrats to Gracie Gold and Agnes Zawadzki for their medals and doing a good job

Korpi was overmarked, especially in the SP but I don't really have an issue with her win here. Gold was in a great position to win, but she let it get away from her...too many doubled/singled jumps.

As for Zhang, though...man, she wasn't even that bad jumps wise...but she looked totally out of sorts. Slower on just about everything (and even at her best, she isn't blazing fast). I'm actually wondering if she is dealing with a setback of some sort. Shades of Flatt at SA...

[FSGMT]

I have to point out that I do think Kiira deserved to win, absolutely! She has been really the best, today! I just don't agree with the ones Who say that she deserved a higher PCS...