LP is...Vivaldi for me, still...I know many believe Poeta is his masterpiece/best program in his whole career and I agree with them...'artistically'. Especially at 2007 Tokyo Worlds where, in spite of jump mistakes, I had goosebumps while watching it the whole time 4 mminutes d half! However, if I see it as a competitive program, I feel a bit incomplete becasuse of lack to ice coverage/over all speed/too many stops with dance at one place. (Sorry to say this and please don't get me wrong, becasuse I also knew his injuries over the years is part of its reason...)
With Vivaldi program in 2005-06 season, Stephane was literally 'flying' with joy over the ice, expressing every note of the music with his whole body while executing hardest jumps (2nd quad in the second half!), doing most difficult steps and spins at the same time!!! That was figure skating, the sport I fell in love, for me. Stephane exactly demonstrated 'figure skating' with this program, not mere hard jumps, not numbers of revolutions/change edges/positions required in spins, not all about skating skill, nor requirements to get level 4 step sq. A mixture of everything that was performed on the ice throughout 4 minutes+half!
As for Buttle, SP is probably Rachmaninov as a competitive program. Adios Noninos at 2007 Worlds comes to close second, though.
There are so many free programs of his that I really like, so I just can't pick up one...maybe Ararat at 2008 LA Worlds where he skated so perfectly (though I still prefer his white shirt with blue emboideries in the previous season).
I agree with you, IP, many of their programs are pure 'gems' in this CoP era. Around 2005-7 seasons, I did believe that we were going to encounter with many great programs such as Stephane's Vivaldi, Jeff's Glenn Gould, Dai's Klook or Tessa/Scott's Mahler, and that we were going to see many wonderful/exciting/beautiful/artistic skaters like them who can demonstrate a true figure skating. But the reality is, I am just an amateur fan so I don't know it for sure but...each season we get to see such great programs/skaters, say, not more than 10, maybe?
->I much prefer this shirt for his Ararat, though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpdzA20mgy0
Oh, I miss Stephane and Jeffs so much! IP, thanks a lot for reminding me of them. One of the reasons I love Steph, Jeff and Dai so much is every season they could make competitive programs, its choreographies, step sequences, etc. of their own's, and at every competition they entered or at every show appearance, they could always bring something special to the ice and bring the joy of skating to us, regardless of mistakes or not. (For that matter, I feel a bit disappointed with younger skaters and blame it to ISU , except a couple of the mentioned in my previou post.) The intensity, strain and excitement during 6-minute warm up by the final group at 2007 Tokyo Worlds was the 'best and worst' moment for me, probably, because I loved all of them; the very best six skaters that year: Brian, Jeff, Dai, Johnny, Evan and Stephane, so I got so nervous for each one of them and I just did not know who to root for the most!
P.S. Buttle's style of skating was considered as ideal and most desired by ISU upon introduction of IJS/CoP, wasn't it?
That must have been some experience, watching that worlds live! I'd have been similarly anxious for everyone. Who could choose between Stephane, Jeff, and Daisuke--and then to add Brian, Johnny, and Evan to the mix.
That's an interesting point, that many of the greatest skating programs of recent times are also CoP gems. Certainly YuNa's programs qualify for that description. I wonder, though, whether some of these programs come from a time when CoP was calibrated slightly differently from the way it's set up now? Does anyone have any thoughts about that? I mean, at the beginning of CoP, Sasha held the points record for ladies for the first few years. She'd hardly score that high with such programs now. Have the criteria evolved?
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But here's the thing: when I consider early COP programs, there aren't many that really take over discussion like the second era programs. If you could treat a season of figure skating like a best of album, I'm confident that there isn't a season that there would be less than 15 programs I'd rewatch without a second's hesitation.
Okay, my impressions after I watched Mens free skates on TV:
-I really liked Chan's, Kozuka's and Ten's programs as whole.
A couple of mistakes from Taka and Denis, it means so much room to grow/perfect their programs, as well as more points and higher standings. Taka needs some more work to project the program and make the music come alive, though. David Wilson has proved himself once again that he is a genius choreographer!
-As for Denis, I really like his progrmas last year and again this year. However, why does he have such difficult programs season after season? He was just inconsistent even with one quad last season. Why put 2 quads at this point? He needs to establish himself as a World/Olympic medal-worthys skater first with stable/consistent performances throughout the season. What's the hurry? He may end up injure himself I fear...
-It's the new season. Knock-knock, where are your new programs, Artur and Michal???
Especially Michal. He does not forever get 8's in PCS and judges love with such 'average' program, I think. His new SP, too. He will not make it onto the world podium on his own; will have to always rely onto other top skaters to make a couple of mistakes or perform badly. He has the technical goods. And pretty good musicality. Why does he put all his talent and ability to his competitive programs and try to stretch himself artistically??? His Kodo SP was the only one I really liked in his competitive programs so far.
-So nice to see Nobu got back on the track and his smiles. Also, very glad to see he tries to skate BIG this season, finally, which is something missing in his skating I thought, ever since he moved up to seniors in 2005-06 season. Took long time but kudos to Nobu, Mr. Barkell and Lori!
-Sad Menshov did not podium. Doubling the last jump into 2T really cost him... So relieved to see Autur's fully-rotated quads, and land at least one. Good job, Zhan Bush! Not bad at all scoring almost 200 in his very first senior grand prix.
- to Johnny's withdrawal.
I've realized that it is impossible to make logical and rational conversations with you. So as Toni has suggested above, from now on, I am putting you into my ignore list which is so far still empty.
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www.team-russia2014.ru/article/6164.html . Plush actually never said that he will not go to Worlds for sure. He always says something like "we'll see... it depends.. decide later...". No one really expected that such situation would come. And the poor skating of Artur this season is also not much of a hope. The team for worlds will be set after Euros, Gorshkov said. So it's quite possible that Plu will go. I personally think that the second spot should be get by those who lost it- either Gachi or Voronov, since they will be getting it for their possible Olympic medal in Team's. Why should Plu bother to do their job. On the other hand- I don't want him to skate in two Olympic events at his age. Well.