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Thread: Czisny Suffers Another Training Setback

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    I've also heard it mentioned that Polina Shelepen WD early enough to allow Nagasu to get the spot providing that the US Federation doesn't WD Czisny. The extent to which you believe that is entirely dependent on the extent to which you want to, imo.
    I love the idea that Osmond is such a threat to Japanese, American and Russian skaters that the Japanese fed is afraid to have her skate at NHK!

    Not saying that I necessarily believe the above conspiracy theory. But the idea of big bad scary Osmond tickles. Hope it further ups her cred with the international judges.

    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I doubt this is the case. I don't think any federation is afraid of Kaetlyn at this point, as she has only skated one good event internationally. And I agree the USFSA isn't that calculated, especially when they can't even properly manage their own athletes' condition.
    Two, if you count Nebelhorn, where Osmond beat Sotnikova.
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    I don't buy the notion/conspiracy that there's this big, concerted effort across multiple federations to keep Osmond out of GPF contention after what she did at SC. But I have to admit the thought is entertaining...

    I think the delay is all on Team Czisny in this case...possibly USFS as well if they're ultimately in charge of notifying NHK, but no more IMO.

    If it is Osmond that would ultimately get Czisny's spot if she pulled out, between us I'm not in any particular hurry, although it still doesn't make it right if Czisny is purposefully delaying.
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    They wouldn't give it to Osmond (#47 on the world ranking list) anyway. They could go with Hecken (#29), McCorkell (#35), or Glebova (#36), all of whom have only 1 spot.

    Burykova, #62, is already scheduled for NHK as her second event, the first being Cup of China. Now that's what I call politicking! .

    They should go back to the original idea of the Gand Prix. Six separate events, then the winners of those events meet in the winner-take-all final. (The only problem was that in the first one, in 1995-96, there were only five events and the same lady won three of them.)
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    I think Czisny wants to compete. I think if she can't compete, she's gonna make that decision at the last possible minute, as you'd expect of any athlete with willpower and love of what they do. She's not thinking of Osmond or her federation, and I can't think of a reason she should (yes, I'm fine with her competing at Worlds last season).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    I think Czisny wants to compete. I think if she can't compete, she's gonna make that decision at the last possible minute, as you'd expect of any athlete with willpower and love of what they do. She's not thinking of Osmond or her federation...
    Yes, but the debate is whether the team and/or the federation should intervene when there's stuff on the line. Of course the athlete is going to want to play/compete, and will hobble out there if necessary. The NBA and NFL have new rules now, I believe, that mandate clearance from a doctor for any player who has sustained a concussion before they can play again.

    Again, you cannot rely on the athlete to make the right call. You *must* have outside folks with a less partial view to assess the situation and determine whether it's OK/worth the risk/etc. At least some of them should be in the medical field (familiar with the type of injury sustained).

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    Shrug..... I think there's more on the line for the individual skater than for the federation.

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    I think you have the Hughes sisters mixed up. It was Emily not Sarah who took Michelles' spot in Torino. Sarah won 2002 Olympics.[/QUOTE]

    I sure did use the wrong name (but I had the image of Emily in my mind)...thanks!

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    It's official -- Alissa withdraws from NHK.

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/artic...&vkey=ice_news

    Doesn't say whether there will be a replacement...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    It's official -- Alissa withdraws from NHK.

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/artic...&vkey=ice_news

    Doesn't say whether there will be a replacement...
    Thanks for keeping us updated! Not shocking news, of course, but I do feel disappointed for Alissa and do hope that if she wants to, she can get back into competitive shape for nationals. Best wishes!

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    Czisny's comments on her withdrawal from NHK, as tweeted by Philip Hersh ‏@olyphil:

    After withdrawing from NHK, Alissa Czisny just texted me: "I have no doubts whatsoever I will be ready and prepared for nationals"
    8:48 AM - 14 Nov 12 ·

    More from Alissa:"Withdrawal mostly a matter of not being able/wanting to push hip to prepare in time. Absolutely can't risk any setbacks"
    8:51 AM - 14 Nov 12

    Last bit from Alissa:"We are looking for a competition before nationals (even something local would be helpful)" BTW: Hip surgery was June 6
    8:55 AM - 14 Nov 12

    (emphasis added)

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    Thanks for the info. Looking forward to seeing a healthy Alissa at Nationals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Czisny's comments on her withdrawal from NHK, as tweeted by Philip Hersh ‏@olyphil:

    After withdrawing from NHK, Alissa Czisny just texted me: "I have no doubts whatsoever I will be ready and prepared for nationals"
    8:48 AM - 14 Nov 12 ·

    More from Alissa:"Withdrawal mostly a matter of not being able/wanting to push hip to prepare in time. Absolutely can't risk any setbacks"
    8:51 AM - 14 Nov 12

    Last bit from Alissa:"We are looking for a competition before nationals (even something local would be helpful)" BTW: Hip surgery was June 6
    8:55 AM - 14 Nov 12

    (emphasis added)
    I'm happy Nationals won't be her first competition of the season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    Maybe I have a short memory but I really don't remember Michelle ever embarassing herself in her last couple of years. I think she pulled the plug when she knew it was time. She had more to her life than skating and wanted to pursue her education, etc. And on that - she's done remarkably well!
    I would never say Kwan embarassed herself but she wasnèt up to her normal perfect self when she tried balancing school or held on with injuries and we never really saw hwer skate in 2006 - just given the opporutnity on her well earned reputation.

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    I find her interview responses to Phil Hersh somewhat optimistic and lacking in any content regarding salient details.
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    [QUOTE=meem;678299]IMO Kwan didn't know when to call it quits. She was too injured to compete at '06 Nationals (and had been injured for quite some time already at that point) yet she refused to step back and allow another American skater, Sarah Hughes, to be a part of the opening ceremony in Torino, have the thrill of walking behind the flag (sure Sarah eventually got to Torino to compete but it would have been nice if she'd had the whole experience). Michelle had already competed in two Olympics, and yes, we were lucky to see several beautiful performances for the next couple of years. But even after she couldn't compete at Nationals she still wouldn't face reality that her body was "done". I've always been a fan of MK but that decision of hers really bothered me.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterB View Post
    Snip. Some would say that Kwan should have retired after Nagano, then she gave us three more gloriuos years. Some said that she should have retired after Salt Lake, then she gave us those beautiful National programs. By the time Torino arrive there wasn't much of her left. I bow to her for knowing when to call it quits.
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