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Thread: Czisny Suffers Another Training Setback

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    Quote Originally Posted by meem View Post
    IMO Kwan didn't know when to call it quits. She was too injured to compete at '06 Nationals (and had been injured for quite some time already at that point) yet she refused to step back and allow another American skater, Sarah Hughes, to be a part of the opening ceremony in Torino, have the thrill of walking behind the flag (sure Sarah eventually got to Torino to compete but it would have been nice if she'd had the whole experience). Michelle had already competed in two Olympics, and yes, we were lucky to see several beautiful performances for the next couple of years. But even after she couldn't compete at Nationals she still wouldn't face reality that her body was "done". I've always been a fan of MK but that decision of hers really bothered me.



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    I'm so sorry but I have to agree with you, I LOVE MK's skating but that decision was the worst thing throughout her career: in my opinion, she should have retired after her 2005 FS at Nationals: she couldn't deal with IJS, her body was done, she had won everything except that Olympic title, well, it's not essential in your life if you're one of the greatest skaters ever! Her 4th place at 2005 Worlds should have been a clear signal for her...

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    Emily Hughes was a lackluster, mediocre skater. She had an air of entitlement that was to me screeching chalk on a blackboard. She went to the Olympics and finished 7th, more than 20 points out of the medals. She was a USFS darling because of her name only--she got inflated marks to ensure she got whatever she wanted (except the 2007 National title which rightfully went to Meissner).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    It's official -- Alissa withdraws from NHK.

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/artic...&vkey=ice_news

    Doesn't say whether there will be a replacement...
    Thanks for the update, Mrs. P.

    In light of this, I think there are some people who've commented on this thread who owe Czisny an apology for the cynical, mean-spirited comments suggesting she would selfishly compete while injured or withdraw at the last minute. I'd say withdrawing twelve days before the start of the competition is pretty gracious.

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    It isn't 12 days before the competition. It's November 15th in Japan and that's EIGHT days before the competition.

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    It's too early to be so "optimistic". Two years ago, JSF invited Shaun Sawyer 3 or 4 days before actual competitions of NHK trophy. If Osmond was invited, it could give impressions that some backdoor deals were made between Japan and Canada. Maybe that is what JSF wants to avoid.

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    ^ Why a backdoor deal? Why not a front door deal? All the Japanese Federation has to say is, "Sure, we'll take Osmond, why not?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    I'm so sorry but I have to agree with you, I LOVE MK's skating but that decision was the worst thing throughout her career: in my opinion, she should have retired after her 2005 FS at Nationals: she couldn't deal with IJS, her body was done, she had won everything except that Olympic title, well, it's not essential in your life if you're one of the greatest skaters ever! Her 4th place at 2005 Worlds should have been a clear signal for her...
    That's easy to see in retrospect. At the time, I can't blame her for hoping against hope that maybe lightning might strike one last time.


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    Emily Hughes was a lackluster, mediocre skater. She had an air of entitlement that was to me screeching chalk on a blackboard. She went to the Olympics and finished 7th, more than 20 points out of the medals. She was a USFS darling because of her name only--she got inflated marks to ensure she got whatever she wanted (except the 2007 National title which rightfully went to Meissner).
    I didn't have that feeling about Emily Hughes at all. I never felt like she thought she was entitled to anything. She gave it her best shot, like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    It isn't 12 days before the competition. It's November 15th in Japan and that's EIGHT days before the competition.
    You're right. Sorry. I was going off the dates of the competition in the linked IN article, which has the event starting on November 26. I see now that it actually starts on the 23rd. Still, 8 days is much better than the 1-2 days notice some folks were predicting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    My personal posting philosophy is not to say anything I wouldn't say to that skater/coach/poster's face in person.


    You have got my vote already, Mrs. P, if we are to have a thread like "The Posts of the Season on GS Forum Award" in 'The Voting Booth'!

    Wishing Alissa a full recovery, not necessarily a speedy one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Czisny's comments on her withdrawal from NHK, as tweeted by Philip Hersh ‏@olyphil:

    After withdrawing from NHK, Alissa Czisny just texted me: "I have no doubts whatsoever I will be ready and prepared for nationals"
    8:48 AM - 14 Nov 12 ·

    More from Alissa:"Withdrawal mostly a matter of not being able/wanting to push hip to prepare in time. Absolutely can't risk any setbacks"
    8:51 AM - 14 Nov 12

    Last bit from Alissa:"We are looking for a competition before nationals (even something local would be helpful)" BTW: Hip surgery was June 6
    8:55 AM - 14 Nov 12

    (emphasis added)
    Thanks for some hope in an otherwise depressing thread. I would very much like to see one of skating's best artists live at Omaha at least one more time. If I had Bill
    Gates' money, I would fund a skating invitational where triple triples were banned and artistry was 2/3 of the score.

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    I'd sign on for a show like that, Chris!

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    Me too I onestely didn't think Alissa will compete at NHK. I wanted badly to see her at least spinning if not doing anything else but on the other hand I didn't want another "world championships". It was a wise decision. This GP had no value for her, she couldn't qualify for the final then if not ready why compete? All that matters to her are the Nationals. I think she will not be able to make the podium with so many jumpers like Ashley, Gracie, Agnes, Gao. But I hope she will make the top 5 and we will see her next year in better shape and with 2 GP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteChris View Post
    Thanks for some hope in an otherwise depressing thread. I would very much like to see one of skating's best artists live at Omaha at least one more time. If I had Bill
    Gates' money, I would fund a skating invitational where triple triples were banned and artistry was 2/3 of the score.
    Yes, I totally agree! Discovering Alissa at 2005 Skate America was one of the highlights of live skating attendance for me. Wishing her the best for a full recovery.

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    She is such a nice person. I've talked to her and her mom before and the last time PaulE and I saw her "live" was when she showed up at Four Conts Colorado Springs last Feb to do some practice and take in the competition. You'd walk into the practice rink lounge and there she would be, doing amazing stretches by the fireplace. She has had some great accomplishments that no one expected in the last few years and I just want her to be healthy and have a great life. I would also like to see a texting competition between her and Ashley..that would be a close one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    I'd sign on for a show like that, Chris!
    Olympica, Remember those long beautiful spirals by MK? Now they take up too much time and get not enough points. And look at all the injuries.....

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