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    If you could change one thing about figure skating, what would it be?

    Here is a new interview with Oleg Vasiliev. It reads:-

    A well-known Russian coach Oleg Vasiliev told why people lose interest in figure skating and leave the stands.....“What is interesting there if skaters without two jumps, two throw jumps and with not well executed lift gain 130 points, showing the best result of the season? You should agree that there is something wrong.” he continued....“I understand people who went out from the stands after the appearance of new judging system. They simply no longer understand figure skating. Judging is currently inadequate to skating"..........“At the time, the old system 6.0 was criticized for the fact that it lacks concreteness and judges were not guided by certain criteria. Now they have a criteria but the essence remains the same. This applies to the second mark for the components and also to the rather biased approach in technical part.” the coach noted.
    I agree with Vasiliev. If I had a magic wand which I could use to change one thing for the better in relation to figure skating, it would be to get rid of COP/IJS and bring back the 6.0 system. The introduction of COP/IJS has without doubt been the biggest factor behind the decline in figure skating. And Vasiliev is right, COP/IJS has not got rid of the political bias, the inflated scores that some skaters get for their PCS, the undermarking of others, etc. No marking system can ever eradicate political bias and what was most ludicrous about COP/IJS, was the assertion that it could. However, that's just my opinion. Hence, if you could change one thing about figure skating which would improve it for the better, what would it be?
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    I believe that if we were to add a jump ONLY category it might create some interest with the boys. Boys love athletic things and throwing themselves in to the air and doing wild tricks (kind of like extreme sports with skateboards and the bicycles).

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    It isn't one thing but radical change. For single and pairs, and even dance, a truly stripped down tech program which is about Atleticism. And then another which resembles what we have now. I would simplify, for the sake of the masses, the IJS. I don't think we will ever go back to 6.0 but we need commentators in the arenas and in the TV booths explaining what they seee, why they received the points, listing the jumps, saying how much for downgrades, etc. What other popular sport must one read and study protoocols. For ubers, people good at Math, the system is easy. For the majoriy it is not. I am not sure how to simplify IJS but I aagree IJS changed how skating is skated. I do not want to see the same ugly spins, the very same moves from every skater to garner points regardless of choreography or of beautiful basics. Chan is elegant, Dai is elegant. These two are mastering IJS but make mistakes all the time. We do not see clean programs anymore. Someone can skate so well and then we learn they did not rotate a 3x3 perfectly and the downgrades keep them off a podium.

    What people miss is this...every sport needs to develop new fans every year or it won't survive or reach a general audience. It is a shame skating is now again a niche sport for the few. I don't see a revival due to the money issues-no return for what one puts out at elite levels. Our fave sport is like gymnastics-super difficult and few can be elite. I also think the prices of these events are prohibitive-this world is terrified of going broke. So, that may affect people in the stands-saving for a rainy day that is sure to come one way or another.

    I am sure the 90's spoiled many insiders-now they are upset skating is no big deal anymore.

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    I would say fewer jumping passes and anything else that would reduce injuries. As a fan it's frustrating because I am literally having to root for a new woman every season because my favorites get injured, retired, burned out, or just flat out bomb important competitions. You don't have skaters like Michelle and Irina whose peak performances spanned multiple Olympic cycles. I think that is the biggest problem, that you can't have a favorite that does well for more than a few seasons.

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    I agree with Mao. The current rule guidelines don't always make for pleasing-to-watch programs. I hate the combo spins - they go on forever and ever and the positions are not attractive for the most part. But I also agree with skateluvr about how figure skating has become a niche sport and how the prices of the events are really getting out of hand. I'm going to Boston in 2014 with a tour group. We got word that the original price was not correct because they're now charging TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS for the exhibitions night. I shudder to think what the Olys will cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
    I agree with Vasiliev. If I had a magic wand which I could use to change one thing for the better in relation to figure skating, it would be to get rid of COP/IJS and bring back the 6.0 system. The introduction of COP/IJS has without doubt been the biggest factor behind the decline in figure skating. And Vasiliev is right, COP/IJS has not got rid of the political bias, the inflated scores that some skaters get for their PCS, the undermarking of others, etc. No marking system can ever eradicate political bias and what was most ludicrous about COP/IJS, was the assertion that it could. However, that's just my opinion. Hence, if you could change one thing about figure skating which would improve it for the better, what would it be?
    1. I have doubts that COP/IJS was the biggest factor behind the decline of figure skating.

    2. I don't think I could choose just one thing to change, though. I'd probably start with making the JGPF eight skaters instead of six.

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    I would change the rule of downgraded jump deduction. I think that they should keep calling downgraded jumps and give the base mark of those downgraded, but the change that I would like to see is that the judge can use the GOE they want to -3 at +3 instead of giving automatically a -3 and -2

    It would be less frustrating for a skater, to have the opportunity to show a good try of a jump and not lose so much GOE cause of a downgraded question. So a good show of downgraded would deserve a 0 in the GOE if the landing is properly

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