2012 TEB Ladies Short Program SP

[Art&Sport]

10 of 10 for effort, although I don't agree with any of it!

Likewise

[Mao88]

I'm glad you find your own dodgy analysis funny too

[Art&Sport]

Only after you had finished with it yourself - and then there wouldn't be much left

Eeeww! No thanks. I think you and DianaSelene are the ones enjoying a leftover beef together.

[DianaSelene]

If someone were to ask "Where's the beef?" -- I think they would find you chewing on it!

The pot calling the kettle black.



I hope your comment made you feel better.

[Art&Sport]

The pot calling the kettle black.



I hope your comment made you feel better.

Nope. This kind of back and forth triviata only makes out-of-control, 3-year-old egos feel better (and we all have them, whether you realize it or not). Guess your "case" was never really closed, but I'm removing my ego from this nonsense. Enjoy the skaters you love.

[DianaSelene]

Nope. This kind of back and forth triviata only makes out-of-control, 3-year-old egos feel better (and we all have them, whether you realize it or not). Guess your "case" was never really closed, but I'm removing my ego from this nonsense. Enjoy the skaters you love.

Thanks, I will. I love Lipnitskaya's skating and hope she does well in the future and the judges seem to agree with me, so I have no complaints.

[jenaj]

Julia's jumps are not small. You have simply picked that idea up from other posters.

Absolutely not true. I have seen her jumps with my own eyes. Feel free to see my comments about her tiny double axel on the Cup of China thread, posted several weeks ago. Tiny girls can have big jumps, by the way. See Midori Ito.

[FlattFan]

Julia's jumps are not small. You have simply picked that idea up from other posters. Her jumps may look small, but that is only because she herself is physically small. Relative and proportionate to her own height, her jumps are completely normal in height. As she grows, so therefore will the height of her jumps.

No, girl. Midori is 4'9 and she jumped like a throw.
Julia's jumps are tiny. Her 2A is very questionable.
As she grows, you are confident her jumps will stay with her? I doubt she can retain the loop in a year or two.

The other myth that is being put about is that she has a poor 2A. Nonsense. Again, it reminds me of Tara Lipinski's. Whilst it is not her best jump, as with Lipinski it is not going to cause her any problems as there will never be any need for her to upgrade it to a 3A

What myth? You can't see she has a bad 2A?

[bixby]

All I can say is that the long program is definitely longer than the short and in about 12 hours or less we'll know who will win the GOLD.

[hippomoomin]

Where can I see Liza's program? Couldn't find it on Youtube.

[skateluvr]

me either and others-only a couple r up

[herios]

Such comments are very interesting: "she will lose all that flexibility and spins when she becomes a lady". WHAT? Whoever says that, have you never seen really flexible people in their twenties and thirties? Who says she will lose them? Jumps, yes, but flexibility no.

Example, Kanaeva who was olympic rhythmic gymnastis champion in 2008 was 18 and was quite petite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys6je5-JxU0

In 2012, she won the olympics with a greater build as she became more curvy. Same flexibility, two-time olympic champion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpySa3pwnV0

Counter example: Caroline Zhang's pearl. Has vanished

[koatcue]

Counter example: Caroline Zhang's pearl. Has vanished

Julia is ain't no Caroline..And it's not a fact that she'll be. Good try, though

[koatcue]

And Art&Sport, why are you so mad about Julia? She'll be alright, imo. Her spins won't dissapear. She reminds me Sasha))

[koatcue]

Once again, I wish all the ladies luck in fp, but my pick to win is Julia If she makes no mistakes, she SHOULD win. It's hers to lose with her difficult content of the program