11-18-2012, 06:04 PM
Buttercup, my oops! I'll make up for it with a massive PM.
skatinginbc, that's a fair comment to make (though frankly, the Japanese guy would be in the midst of whiteness wherever he was placed). I could've linked to "One Day More" to make my point (or indeed, "Bring Him Home") that the power of the music comes mainly from the voices.
11-18-2012, 07:31 PM
Finally got time to watch the Men's LP. Loved Jeremy and Brian's programs! Not so much the others.
Congrats to the medal winners!
Here is Brian's Gala Exhibition, very, very nice!
11-19-2012, 12:26 AM
Bona Fide Member
Thank you so much!
Originally Posted by demarinis5
11-19-2012, 09:50 AM
I was surprised that my favorite program of this event is Joubert’s program. I did not like his programs at all last season, but I like his Inception program. I know it doesn’t have as many transitions as the programs of Patrick, Takahashi, Yuzru etc., but it’s still a COP program. I like the music and Joubert’s interpretation. I actually think it’s more enjoyable than Jeremy’s Bring Him Home LP, which is also a good program. I wish both Jeremy and Joubert will skate well next time.
Congratulations to Amodio and Mura. I don’t really like their programs, but they skated well here, and they have good basics.
11-19-2012, 10:10 AM
Finally watched Brian's Lp. I feel that he was trying to give more energy than he had. The whole time, I was thinking he needed rest.
11-19-2012, 11:22 AM
Off the ice
This is an acceptable proposal
Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue
Yes, Joubert definitely looked pretty exhausted, and he knew that physically the LP would be tough - said so in the post-SP press conference, too. He'd only been back on the ice for three-four days before TEB, and had lost a fair bit of weight (and presumably, energy/stamina) while he was ill.
Originally Posted by StereoLove
11-19-2012, 12:20 PM
On the Ice
I only watched his LP live at Bercy and that'll be enough because Joubert isn't a skater I appreciate but the feeling I had is that it indeed looked like a programme for a 6.0 skater barely trying to meet the CoP standards. I don't care if this is a wrong impression, I just won't bother watching that performance again (yes, I'm a silly poster, as FlattFan dubbed me). Anyway, he's not the only one who's lacking transitions (and on a side note, I overall preferred the 6.0 programs to today's constant blade-grabbing and ugly positions rewarding).
Originally Posted by Jaana
Never been a fan of Joubert's footwork, either in the 6.0 era or now. But good for him if he still enjoys competing.
11-19-2012, 02:30 PM
Yes, it is true that I keep mentioning the above, but that is the exact impression I have gotten from his programmes. And in my opinion 6.79 for his "transitions" and 7.36 for choreography are still high.
Originally Posted by Buttercup
11-19-2012, 02:51 PM
Then Hanyu, Takahashi and Amodio LP scores are also waaaaaaaaay too high (just the first three coming up to my mind).
Originally Posted by Jaana
Takahashi has almost no transitions either this year, the same for Hanyu, he just run from one element to another (don't talk about interpretation because there's no).
In fact, most of the men LP are overscored if Joubert's is (from what I've seen).
But I overall agree with you, Joubert is overscored, although for me he's just not the worst of all this year and his scores are nowhere near what it used to be for even emptier programs. Just watch Amodio's LP and cry. I didn't know mohawks are transitions.
11-19-2012, 03:05 PM
Just wondering....have you actually watched Takahashi's and Hanyu's programs this year? Because saying that these two skaters have "almost no transitions" is so categorically false I don't even know where to start (particularly when it comes to Hanyu whose programs have a lot of content--Takahashi I think needs more in the first minute of his LP when he sets up for his quads).
Originally Posted by machin
11-19-2012, 03:22 PM
I watched them at Finlandia & SC (is it ? or SA) and JPO, that's the impression I had. Never wanted to get bored again by those two programs.
I'm obviously talking outside elements. Choreo steps is not a transition.
Takahashi LP is just a Morozov crap although he can save some bits thanks to his charisma (I've been convinced on this point by someone else, didn't want to admit it at first, compare to last year LP it's just dreadfull). Think again about the first minute because there's nothing but jumps. That's Morozov's way to make his pupils to land their contend.
Hanyu just has a random background music for his elements. I don't remember a single move outside jumps, spins and steps sequences.
Maybe I should rewatch them but I have better things to do. These skaters are so talented it's painfull to see what they have to come up with because of silly rules.
11-19-2012, 03:33 PM
Look--just to be clear here, I don't like either of Takahashi's or Hanyu's LPs this year (though I do like Hanyu's SP). But just because the choreography isn't great doesn't mean they have "almost no transitions". For example, for Hanyu--I don't even have to re-watch his programs, but off the top of my head, I can remember he has a lot of difficult transitions like a spread eagle into 4S, ina bauer into 3F, his trademark difficult 3A entry with that counter turn, etc. Those are definitely transitions, and just because you don't remember them doesn't mean they don't exist.
Originally Posted by machin
11-19-2012, 04:03 PM