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    One hit wonder coaches

    Who are some coaches who come to mind who trained only one highly successful skater and were never heard from again. Some to come to mind for me are:

    Robin Wagner- I dont really count her "blip" with Cohen
    Alex McGowan
    Joanne Barbo

    Such a shame about Robin Wagner too. She is such a wonderful and kind lady.

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    Christy Kjarsgaard Ness. She trained a couple elite skaters after Yamaguchi but only had real success with Kristi.

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    Alex McGowan is working at a more grassroots level now in Nevada. Students love him by all reports. I was never a fan of Robin Wagner. YMMV, but I found her to be all about herself, not her skater....

    How about Linda Leaver on this list?

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    Priscilla Hill with Johnny Weir? I can't remember what skaters she has now.

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    This is an interesting thread - sorry to see it is not as popular as I'd like.

    One thing I would point out is that many of these "one-hit-wonder" coaches specialize in beginning/mid-level skating and are not necessarily looking to be the next John Nicks or Frank Carrol. Most of these coaches are simply laying the foundation for the "big-name" coaches - who take on skaters and "finish" them. The real grunt work is done, IMO, by the beginning/mid-level coaches.

    Occasionally, we'll see a coach/skater combo who sticks it out for the long-haul. IIRC, this was the case with Scott Hamilton and Brian Boitano. Several more recent skaters/coaches are Pricilla (sp) Hill and Johnny Weir, Robyn Wagner and Hughes to name a few.

    Unfortunately, coaching at the lower level is not taken as seriously as it should. How many times do we see a promising young skater come around with some serious technique issues that seem to have been ignored. Too many of these coaches are just too eager to push students up the testing ladder even when the technique is not sound. I understand the desire to achieve testing goals but with the dismay of figures and the lack of fundamental skating skills theses days, it's all about preforming tricks - technically sound or not.

    Having said that, I think those of us in the skating community owe these coaches a big round of applause for all of their hard work - which often goes unnoticed when a skater hits the "big-time" and moves to a more prestigious coach who can "finish" them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatingfan4ever View Post
    Priscilla Hill with Johnny Weir? I can't remember what skaters she has now.
    After Johnny, Priscilla had Ashley Wagner and Armin Mahbanoozadeh for a while. But I don't know who she has now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyria View Post
    Christy Kjarsgaard Ness. She trained a couple elite skaters after Yamaguchi but only had real success with Kristi.
    Didn't she coach Chen Lu to 1998 bronze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwiggin3 View Post
    This is an interesting thread - sorry to see it is not as popular as I'd like.

    One thing I would point out is that many of these "one-hit-wonder" coaches specialize in beginning/mid-level skating and are not necessarily looking to be the next John Nicks or Frank Carrol. Most of these coaches are simply laying the foundation for the "big-name" coaches - who take on skaters and "finish" them. The real grunt work is done, IMO, by the beginning/mid-level coaches.

    Occasionally, we'll see a coach/skater combo who sticks it out for the long-haul. IIRC, this was the case with Scott Hamilton and Brian Boitano. Several more recent skaters/coaches are Pricilla (sp) Hill and Johnny Weir, Robyn Wagner and Hughes to name a few.

    Unfortunately, coaching at the lower level is not taken as seriously as it should. How many times do we see a promising young skater come around with some serious technique issues that seem to have been ignored. Too many of these coaches are just too eager to push students up the testing ladder even when the technique is not sound. I understand the desire to achieve testing goals but with the dismay of figures and the lack of fundamental skating skills theses days, it's all about preforming tricks - technically sound or not.

    Having said that, I think those of us in the skating community owe these coaches a big round of applause for all of their hard work - which often goes unnoticed when a skater hits the "big-time" and moves to a more prestigious coach who can "finish" them.
    Scott Hamilton had several coaches over the years. He was only with don for five-ish years.

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    The PSA gives a developmental coach of the year EDI award to recognize the coaches who develop skaters in their early competitive careers.

    http://www.skatepsa.com/Joint-PSA-USFS-EDI-AWARDS.htm



    Developmental Coach of the YEAR In recognition of new talent and superior teaching technique for a coach who has a career record of helping athletes develop to higher levels of the sport and as human beings. A nominee for developmental coach must never have had a national champion and should be recognized for their work with skaters below the senior level.

    Recipients
    2011 Kori Ade
    2010 Jim Peterson, Lyndon Johnson, Allison Smith
    2009 Jim Peterson,
    2008 Yaroslava Netchaeva, Iouri Tchesnitchenko
    2007 Mark Mitchell, Peter Johansson
    2006 Mark Mitchell, Peter Johansson
    2005 Tammy Gambill
    2004 Pamela Gregory
    2003 Mark Mitchell, Peter Johansson
    2002 Not awarded
    2001 Pamela Gregory, Jeff DiGregorio
    2000 Barret Brown, Thomas Lescinski
    1999 Tom Zakrajsek
    1998 Igor Shpilband, Elizabeth Coates
    1997 Megan Faulkner
    1996 Peter Oppegard
    1995 Traci Coleman

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    Laura Gallindo - Rudy's sister was a one-hit wonder coaching him.

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    Suzanne Bonaly

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyria View Post
    Christy Kjarsgaard Ness. She trained a couple elite skaters after Yamaguchi but only had real success with Kristi.
    I thought of counting her. She did coach Susan Humphries to make the Olympic team in a big upset, knocking off longtime top 10 World skater Karen Preston, then placing top 10 herself at Worlds. She coached Nicole Bobek once, but to no real success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mskater93 View Post
    Alex McGowan is working at a more grassroots level now in Nevada. Students love him by all reports.
    Good to hear. Didnt he and Thomas completely break off any relationship or contact after the 88 Worlds.


    Linda Leaver is a great one. Cant believe I didnt think of her. Definitely a one hit coaching wonder.

    Laura Galindo as well for sure, but was she even Rudy's real coach.

    Suzanne Bonaly was a terrible coach, Surya's success had absolutely nothing to do with her I am sure. Definitely a one hit coaching wonder though.

    Priscilla Hill seems to have coached a large number of decent skaters.

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    What about Manon Perron, did she have any other elite skaters besides Joannie? Although maybe she doesn't count since she is working for Skate Canada now.

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    The first coach to come to mind was actually Slutskaya's coach. I believe that slutskaya is the only one who reached their peak success while being coached by her.

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