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Thread: Asada to use triple Axel later this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by miki88 View Post
    The title of this thread is a bit misleading. In the article, Mao's agent said the jump isn't left off permanently, but neither did she say she will definitely use it later in the season. The media always asks Mao about this jump, but from most recent interviews, it does appear it has become a much less of a focus in her training.
    Exactly. Mao is much more focused on other aspects of her training now, but the only thing that journalists care about is that one jump, and it also makes the title. She may or may not do it, and her side is not the one who brought it up. Mao herself actually mentioned that they are planning to work on 3F-3T with her coach in one of her interviews after COC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babayaga View Post
    Exactly. Mao is much more focused on other aspects of her training now, but the only thing that journalists care about is that one jump, and it also makes the title. She may or may not do it, and her side is not the one who brought it up. Mao herself actually mentioned that they are planning to work on 3F-3T with her coach in one of her interviews after COC.
    3F+3T? I think 3F+3Lo would be better: considering that is very probable that she'll often get a < whatever she tries of these two, the 3F+3Lo BV is higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    3F+3T? I think 3F+3Lo would be better: considering that is very probable that she'll often get a < whatever she tries of these two, the 3F+3Lo BV is higher
    True, but her solo 3T is awful. If she can rotate it at the end of a 2A or 3F, she would then be able to do 2 other 3L's, which is her best jump.

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    Mao sometimes URs the 2lo at the end of combos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Mao sometimes URs the 2lo at the end of combos.
    well Mao is THREE MONTH short of practice give her time to regain her good form, and i think if she added the 3f-3lo it's safer for her, because then she would have to attack the whole combo more, I watched her practice clips and most of her 3f-3lo attempt looked fully rotated to me, so i wouldn't be surprised if she decides to add it in the near future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    3F+3T? I think 3F+3Lo would be better: considering that is very probable that she'll often get a < whatever she tries of these two, the 3F+3Lo BV is higher
    That was what she said. This makes sense for the short program because her favorite solo jump is 3Loop so doing 3F3T will allow her to keep 3Loop out of steps. Doing 3F3L means she'll have to do either 3Lutz or 3Sal - both she is inconsistent with or 3T. I don't think she can do any 3-3 fully rotated now, but my point was that this is what she is working on at the moment. 3 Axel is what journalists want to talk about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mary01 View Post
    well i think the issue she had with her jumps at COC are due to her being 3 month short of practice, so i am not worried about that. after seeing all the beautiful 3A she attempted at 2012 worlds practice, i am really looking forward to see her deliver them in competition again!
    In all those trainings I have seen just a clean 3a and was in the warm-up of the short..and even there I cannot say if it was fully rotated or not....and even if it was clean it was one out of like 40 attempts....plus with the knew rules judges are more severe with UR
    I don't think the game's worth the candle....I would really love to see her 3a again but I doubt it...

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    We were lucky to see her do three in the last Olympics. It will be awhile before we see that again from anyone. I just hope she can become dependable in her other jumps so that we can enjoy all aspects of her gorgeous skating and collect more photos of her at the top of the World podium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    We were lucky to see her do three in the last Olympics. It will be awhile before we see that again from anyone. I just hope she can become dependable in her other jumps so that we can enjoy all aspects of her gorgeous skating and collect more photos of her at the top of the World podium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanja90 View Post
    In all those trainings I have seen just a clean 3a and was in the warm-up of the short..and even there I cannot say if it was fully rotated or not....and even if it was clean it was one out of like 40 attempts....plus with the knew rules judges are more severe with UR
    I don't think the game's worth the candle....I would really love to see her 3a again but I doubt it...
    The system is not more severe with ur- it is less severe And even in the less severe atmosphere she can barely do a 3a anyway. It is because the system is so less severe that she could do 3 triples of two kinds in a free skate and win coc.

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    I would love to see Asada doing the triple axel again. I think she is very good without it, but she is tremendous with it.

    I think it is interesting (and mind you, I have no one specific in mind) that people say things like "Mao should focus on getting her other jumps together and cleanly rotating her other triples," but it is so rare to hear people say "[Any one of 90% of elite international male skaters] should stop trying that quad (since he falls or URs on them basically every time) and get his act together with his other triples."

    Hmmm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe Nero View Post
    I think it is interesting (and mind you, I have no one specific in mind) that people say things like "Mao should focus on getting her other jumps together and cleanly rotating her other triples," but it is so rare to hear people say "[Any one of 90% of elite international male skaters] should stop trying that quad (since he falls or URs on them basically every time) and get his act together with his other triples."
    The problem is she does one triple very well (L) one triple reasonably well (F) and the rest are pretty shaky. Working on the 3A takes time away from working on her other jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    The problem is she does one triple very well (L) one triple reasonably well (F) and the rest are pretty shaky. Working on the 3A takes time away from working on her other jumps.
    Sure, I agree. But I think the same could be said of most of the male skaters attempting quads this season. Their triples are falling apart from all the training time they are presumably putting into quads. But on their quads they almost always fall, UR, two-foot, or put their hand down. AND they're not landing their triples well.

    (I was really impressed at Jeremy Abbott for not going for a quad in his SP at Eric Bompard, but that is another topic.)

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    ^^^

    The difference, I think, is that it is absolutely essential to have a quad if you want to win in the men's event. No doubt about it--just look at the top men's finishers at Worlds last season.

    For ladies, however, it's not essential to have a triple axel. Cleanly rotating the other triples is enough to win, and judging by the results at Worlds last year, you don't necessarily even need a full set of them.
    Last edited by evangeline; 11-23-2012 at 01:21 AM.

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    I think it's because male skaters need quads to win but Mao doesn't need 3A to win. No other female skater is doing 3A.

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