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    So happy for Marissa and Simon! They finished 7th at this event a year ago -- how wonderful would it be that they got a medal this year?!

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    One judge had some very questionable GOE choices for B/L. He gave them minuses on everything except for 3 elements. A -1 for the lift?????? While another judge gave them +3 on that same element?? Uh, ok. I don't ever remember them getting negatives on cleanly-executed lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    So happy for Marissa and Simon! They finished 7th at this event a year ago -- how wonderful would it be that they got a medal this year?!
    I agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    Denney and Coughlin aren't exactly chopped liver..
    No. Intriguingly, at this point, D/C are 7th on the season's best list. Osmond is... 7th on the season's best list. So D/C are about as viable pair as Osmond is a viable lady for Canada. If not moreso given that they have more experience and senior success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DianaSelene View Post
    One judge had some very questionable GOE choices for B/L. He gave them minuses on everything except for 3 elements. A -1 for the lift?????? While another judge gave them +3 on that same element?? Uh, ok. I don't ever remember them getting negatives on cleanly-executed lifts.
    I don't understand that either. I also think +2s are too high for B/L's throw since she really had to eke out the landing. And also, weren't M-T/M's SBS spins rather out of unison, or am I remembered incorrectly? I was surprised to see a couple +2s. Overall, I think the results are pretty accurate, but I am once again puzzled but some of the GOE these judges award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    No. Intriguingly, at this point, D/C are 7th on the season's best list. Osmond is... 7th on the season's best list. So D/C are about as viable pair as Osmond is a viable lady for Canada. If not moreso given that they have more experience and senior success.
    And actually neither is C/S! They just past D/C with their SP today for spot No. 7!

    ETA: At least in the short program...we'll see what happens in the FS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    And actually neither is C/S! They just past D/C with their SP today for spot No. 7!

    ETA: At least in the short program...we'll see what happens in the FS.
    I can see C/S overtaking Donlan/Speroff for US#2. Or, even #1 come Nationals.

    I feel kind of sorry for Mark Ladwig. He looked very disappointed in the K&C, but forming a new partnership a year before the Olympics is HARD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsisjiejie View Post
    Well, I wasn't on my own computer, and since I couldn't access in IE, Firefox, Opera, or Chrome, must have been some sort of firewall setting...which I didn't want to mess with. Now back on my own laptop and the site is working, but I missed the pairs and now bobsledding is on! Hopefully NHK will be back when the Men's starts. Thanks all for the assistance.
    Glad it is working for you. It looks UK Eurosport is planning on showing NHK Pairs SP after they show NHK Men's Free Skate, so you might have another chance to see it. Streaming links will probably pop-up for those events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    I can see C/S overtaking Donlan/Speroff for US#2. Or, even #1 come Nationals.

    I feel kind of sorry for Mark Ladwig. He looked very disappointed in the K&C, but forming a new partnership a year before the Olympics is HARD!
    As far as I'm concerned, C/S is looking good for U.S. No. 2. I think Donlan/Speroff needs to watch their backs for Scimeca/Knierim. S/K is also a new team, but they have showed consistently good results in their short time together.

    I like Lindsey Davis, but I think it's tough to fill the shoes of Amanda Evora. When I see this pair do lifts, I miss E/L a lot more.

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    Donlan/Speroff would be a podium worthy team for me if they could jump. A shame, but oh well.

    Speaking of the team event (and I'd argue it's a four nation race with France), I'd love to know the strategy behind some of the picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gold12345 View Post
    She's looked like that for several years now. It's somewhat incredible she has enough strength to be such a good skater.
    I do wonder if she is just not naturally muscular/has a hard time putting on muscle though. She looks freaky thin, no argument, but I worked with anorexic/truly malnourished people for a time and she doesn't have any of the characteristics we were told were major red flags other than her weight. Her calves are not larger than her thighs, her hair doesn't seem to be falling out, and she doesn't ever actually look like she feels weak or dizzy. I'm kind of inclined to think this is just her body type, freaky as it looks. Of course, though I hope I'm not, I could be wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, C/S is looking good for U.S. No. 2. I think Donlan/Speroff needs to watch their backs for Scimeca/Knierim. S/K is also a new team, but they have showed consistently good results in their short time together.

    I like Lindsey Davis, but I think it's tough to fill the shoes of Amanda Evora. When I see this pair do lifts, I miss E/L a lot more.
    That's true about S/K. I had never seen them before this event and they were better than I was expecting. I guess there are also Yankowskas/Reagan in the mix too, although with an injury and being a new team I'm not sure what kind of contenders they'll be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    That's true about S/K. I had never seen them before this event and they were better than I was expecting. I guess there are also Yankowskas/Reagan in the mix too, although with an injury and being a new team I'm not sure what kind of contenders they'll be.
    Yeah, there's not much to work off of regarding Y/R.

    I saw D/S live at Skate America and I have to say I was a bit disappointed. Yes, they have great line and pretty positions, but they definitely lacked presence and power that I saw from D/C and C/S (who were at that competition as well).

    S/K was a nice surprise when I watched their summer comp videos. I honestly think that they could overtake D/C in a few years with some experience and a little bit more consistency on jumps (and I mean little, they generally land their jumps, but I've seen some little jump errors in past competitions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    I do wonder if she is just not naturally muscular/has a hard time putting on muscle though. She looks freaky thin, no argument, but I worked with anorexic/truly malnourished people for a time and she doesn't have any of the characteristics we were told were major red flags other than her weight. Her calves are not larger than her thighs, her hair doesn't seem to be falling out, and she doesn't ever actually look like she feels weak or dizzy. I'm kind of inclined to think this is just her body type, freaky as it looks. Of course, though I hope I'm not, I could be wrong...
    I'm honestly not sure about her. Lubov Iliuschechkina looked 'worse' to me, since her head and hands were so much bigger than the rest of her body.

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    regarding Vera's weight, she was never that skinny before
    here is a Video of them when they were still juniors back in 2007:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxqgs3sBtaQ

    she lost a lot from her legs, why she wanted to lose more I have no idea
    to get their nice triple twists they have today ?

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