Yes, they're young....but for their age, they have quite a connection to the audience. I was very drawn in. I can't find their Cats FD from U.S. Challenge Skate or Sectionals on YouTube, but shows it even more (it's on Ice Network).
The relationship between a connection with/to the music, with/to the audience and with/to each other can be very interesting. I've been thinking about Krylova and Ovsyannikov. They certainly had a good relationship with/to the music, but one thing about the two was they projected more to the audience than to each other. She in particular played much more to the audience than to her partner--so much so that my friend used to joke that she was like Gloria Swanson on crack. HUGE facial expressions and gestures. She definitely played to the last seat in the last row of the back balcony.
B/K programs I felt had good connection: (1994 OSP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBwLKteo2BA, (1995 OD) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY9kHRjCsrQ, (1995 FD) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQfbeF67LM
You can watch year after year how their connection seemed to melt away until 2002 when I felt they were skating together in name only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfD8-3jWuiE
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I have to agree about V/T and P/T-even skating injured, P&T skated a much more compelling program IMO, as a member of the audience at SkAm. V&T demonstrated neither a connection to the audience, the music or each other there anywhere close to what Pang & Tong showed.
And Pang & Tong were just wonderful!
This little couple is wonderful. Look at her positions, especially in the lifts. I will watch for them with great eagerness as they advance.
Congrats to the posters for contributing to an interesting discussion.
I feel I can't completely express my opinions and views in english but I'll give it a try:
The Shibs are a good example of "having a connection". I don't mean this just because they are brother and sister but cause of the way they look together. They genuinely look like they care for each other. The eye contact is great, they look very comfortable together. You can spot a link between them even before you learn that they are brother and sister. Besides there's an harmony in the way they present themselves that helps carrying out the rest (projecting to the audience, skating to the music, etc).
Isabelle and Paul Duchesnay were also a brother and sister team but the vibe I would get from them was totally different. It kind of reminds me of some modern dance shows where the choreographies ask for a clash of minds rather than to display that harmony I've mentioned above.
Krylova & Ovsyannikov have a similar effect on me as Meryl and Charlie. They are not romantically involved but I can't imagine them with anyone else. They do have a bond and look very at ease with each other, showing the same approach, attack and mindset. You can see that there's a mutual respect between the partners and a sort of "we're in this together" attitude that I appreciate very much. To me that's a connection.
On the total opposite I remember watching Berezhnaya and Schliakov. They are both attractive human beings but couldn't look more apart and awkward together. The reactions they had in the knc showed that respect and admiration simply didn't exist between the two. So even if during the performances they would have to look each other in the eyes it would never work no matter how they would try to fake it.
I would also like to add that skaters having an off ice relationship doesn't necessarily mean they will have the ability to show it on the ice or seem like they look well together. Let's think of Grushina and Goncharov (who were married) and Volosozhar & Morozov.
You mean this ?
This is kind of one of the programs that remind me of the "clash of minds". They never looked as one to me. The feeling I would get from the Duchesnays was that I was watching two strong individuals that for whatever reason had to share the same space.
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