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    Russia requests two Olympic spots for Men regardless of Worlds outcome

    http://en.rian.ru/sports/20121206/177959555.html

    Under International Skating Union rules, Russia will be allowed one men's singles skater at Sochi 2014, but the country's skating federation has asked to be granted a second spot as the host nation, for which there is no precedent.

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    Calling in their favors for hosting 2011 Worlds.

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    meh, if it puts butts in the seats, I say let 'em.

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    Fascinating but they know that actually qualifying for two is very very questionable. Not impossible but I wouldn't bet any money. Being granted two I think is far fetched but could rationalize such a thing based on the team event.

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    I hope ISU accepts Russia's request.

    And, I hope ISU will give 1 men's spots and 1 dance spot to Korea in 2018, no matter Worlds outcome.
    Last edited by cosmos; 12-06-2012 at 11:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmos View Post
    I hope ISU accepts Russia's request.

    And, I hope ISU will give 1 men's spots and 1 dance spot to Korea in 2018, no matter Worlds outcome.
    I think south Korea is entitled to them anyway. All events are open to at least one entry from south Korea. Russia wants one spot that comes from having one spot at worlds 2013 and another from being host. They say one spot only is actually wrong. They are so not confident in earning two spots in London .

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    Hmmm... I don't know what to think, to be honest.

    However, I presume this would set some kind of precedent for all host countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmos View Post
    I hope ISU accepts Russia's request.

    And, I hope ISU will give 1 men's spots and 1 dance spot to Korea in 2018, no matter Worlds outcome.
    As the OP said, the host nation gets one, but I'm not sure if the TES rule would apply. However, Korea has a promising junior dance pair training in Russia; they might well be ready for 2018.

    Rebeka KIM / Kirill MINOV
    http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00054325.htm

    They were 6th recently at NRW Trophy Junior Dance.

    Also Jin Seo Kim, a Korean junior skater who has several more years of junior eligibility, scored a bronze medal at one of his JGP events and a fourth place at the other. It's not at all far fetched that he might qualify for 2018 without the benefit of special ISU interventions.
    http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00013480.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRK View Post
    Hmmm... I don't know what to think, to be honest.

    However, I presume this would set some kind of precedent for all host countries?
    Think this way: What if an Olympic host country doesn't have a single spot, say in men's competition? Can the people of the host country accept that fact? If we can accept and live with that, then we should not change the rule to allow Russia to have an additional spot. Otherwise, let it be. So every host country could get that privilege. Somewhere down the road, there might be some other host country might have no spot or only one spot.

    I personally think we should not allow it. Especially Russia has one spot already. What if that additional spot enabled the host country get two out of the three spots on the Olympic podium?!
    Last edited by Bluebonnet; 12-07-2012 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plushyfan View Post
    I don't like this!!!
    I'm actually really surprised you said this. Why don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    meh, if it puts butts in the seats, I say let 'em.
    Agreed. Competitions with loads of empty seats are depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    I'm actually really surprised you said this. Why don't you?
    I think because if Russia wants 2 spots, they have to EARN them!

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    So, is it more plausible to assume that Plushy would make it to Euros but not Worlds? :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciocio View Post
    I think because if Russia wants 2 spots, they have to EARN them!
    of course..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciocio View Post
    I think because if Russia wants 2 spots, they have to EARN them!
    This.

    I really have nothing else to add. If a country isn't performing well enough in a certain discipline to earn a second Olympic or world spot, then they only get one. That's how it's always worked, for all countries. Why should they get an exception? Because they're Russia? I hope the request is denied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    Agreed. Competitions with loads of empty seats are depressing.
    Trust me, FS tickets at the Olympic Games will not lack takers. Even at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics Compulsory Dance, the arena was filled with 10000 people. Normally, Compulsory Dance is rarely ever half full even in a 3000 seating venue.

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