12-09-2012, 11:46 AM
You know KKonas - your personal dislike for V/M is really starting to show. If you can't at least acknowledge that their lifts in the past in FDs as Umbrellas of Cherbourg, Pink Floyd, Mahler etc haven't had any great lifts - well so be it. And really stop calling it the crotch lift. You may feel uncomfortable watching that position, but that position has been shown in professional floor dances...so yeah god forbid V/M display it on the ice... but I agree with you that the last lift is problematic and I think they will address it.
Originally Posted by KKonas
12-09-2012, 11:58 AM
Off the ice
I like V/M far better than D/W, and speaking of unfortunate acrobatic lifts makes me think of the latter rather than the former (if Meryl has held an attractive position, I have yet to see it). However, I do agree that V/M's crotch lift is unattractive, and I don't care who else does lifts like that. It's vulgar. I've called it worse myself.
Originally Posted by heyhey
Not related to any particular post, but the stuff about Tessa's weight is obnoxious. Do we really want ice dance to be all about tiny thin girls? Tessa looks healthy and strong, and the key is how to work with the size difference they have in the best possible way, rather than trying to recapture what they did in the past when she was slimmer. We've seen teams with similar/smaller size differences manage just fine. If Morgan Cipres can lift 1.67m Vanessa James in pairs, and the Kerrs managed nice-looking lifts despite a tiny height difference, Scott and Tessa can surely work something out. Maybe the time has come for them to do a reverse lift! They can look to Hurtado/Diaz for inspiration...
12-09-2012, 12:02 PM
Don't worry. I don't care much what adj you use. It's your right to have "what I meant". I simply find it entertaining that this right is reserved only for some people, judging by this thread.
Originally Posted by chuckm
12-09-2012, 12:43 PM
Well, someone else agreed with my critique of their lifts as they did eliminate one of them. Not saying that V&M don't have any good/great lifts, just saying they don't set a "standard" for great lifts. Other teams have some great lifts too. V&M are not the only ice dancers on the planet.
Originally Posted by heyhey
12-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by let`s talk
Your post and chuckm's post were different. My post was meant clarify what chuckm meant by "heavy". Since I found out from a later poster that you had made a comment earlier using "heavy" in a different context to describe her skating, I added an ETA simply because I felt that Dance Fanatic's last sentence very well could have been directed towards you; which then I could not use my explanation of muscle hypertrophy, now could I?
Last edited by aftertherain; 12-09-2012 at 02:16 PM.
12-09-2012, 02:11 PM
V/M were the first team to score straight +3s on all their lifts and did so at the Olympics. I'd argue that alone means they've "set a standard for great lifts."
12-09-2012, 03:56 PM
Tripping on the Podium
I love Meryl Davis and charlie Whites new fs it's truly beautiful, i loved their interpretation, the theme, the connection they had throughout the whole performance, i felt soo captivated watching them, couldn't take my eyes away!
12-09-2012, 06:11 PM
leave no stone unturned
I really like this Carmen and while usually I look at Scott, this time Tessa steals the show.
And they have trained with Cirque du Soleil really?
12-09-2012, 07:19 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl