12-09-2012, 01:11 AM
You so wish the judges abandon Patrick. Dream on!
Originally Posted by suzukifan27
He's no longer winning despite mistakes is because his technical level is not on par to his previous level. The judges did not abandon him. It's all up to him. If he wants it desperately, he could climb back up. Whether 2013 Worlds is held in Canada or not, no PCS could help anyone if the TES is too low.
12-09-2012, 01:20 AM
Since your post obviously referred to Patrick, but I'm confused about the bold part - Who is this 'her' and what is 'TEB' doing in your post?
Originally Posted by suzukifan27
12-09-2012, 01:22 AM
Originally Posted by aftertherain
12-09-2012, 01:34 AM
Of course, he's disappointed. Anyone who didn't do well or as planned will be disappointed with themselves. So you want to see him 'jump with joy' and kiss everyone on sight to show he is respectful? What has being disappointed and sad got to do with being disrespectful? It is not that he purposely hopped onto the gold podium before stepping on his bronze podium? It is not that he refused to shake the gold and silver medallists' hands?
Originally Posted by starryxskies
Last edited by spikydurian; 12-09-2012 at 01:38 AM.
12-09-2012, 01:35 AM
My what great performances by Yuzuru and Javi. I was not expecting that. I still felt Yuzuru had the best skate overall. He showed alot more expression than at NHK. What a great talent he is. Last season i could watch his Romeo and juliet program over and over. I think javi was great getting 3 quads but i still think his spins are slow and overall not quite at the level of Yuzuru,Patrick, and Dai.Still i like his personality on the ice. Dai even with a few errors commands your attention, hope oneday i see him live. Patrick really was not quite as bad for him as i expected. Looked abit nervous but overwise he would have scored well if he didn't make the mistake of cancelling out the combinaton at the end, and if he would have managed the 3 toe at the end of the quad toe it would have helped. Still adore his program, but i do worry about how he is improving technically jump wise, as the others are improving fast. Must be new to him that not only Dai but Yuzuru and Javier have marks that only he could reach before. In a way its good for fans to see a competiton and not know who will end up the winner. Patrick still wins the PCS. Patrick, Yuzuru, and Dai are my favourite so if i cannot have Patrick at the top iam glad its one of them.
12-09-2012, 01:53 AM
Miki Ando at the 2011 GPF. She won the LP, but was 5th overall.
Originally Posted by LRK
12-09-2012, 01:55 AM
I won't be surprised if Chan announces a coaching change after worlds.
12-09-2012, 01:59 AM
I admire Patrick for improving artistically, as he is really looking like he feels the music more, but my dream is he also works with Brian, and Yuzuru and Javi on a quad salchow too. Must be such an advantage to train with other top skaters
12-09-2012, 02:38 AM
and... World Peace!
I think most of his fans are hoping for sooner than that...
Originally Posted by Icey
12-09-2012, 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by figuristka
12-09-2012, 03:50 AM
12-09-2012, 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by suzukifan27
12-09-2012, 11:15 AM
I don't think the judges are abandoning Chan. I think other skaters are catching up with him. For a while, Patrick had a real advantage with his 2-quad LPs because he was landing the quads really consistently. But now he's not landing them consistently. And the other guys are upping the ante, with all the top men now attempting 2 quads in the long, and Fernandez of course having 3 quads. Add to that the fact that all the other guys are doing 2 3Axels, while Chan only has 1 3Axel (and a shaky one at that), and it means trouble for Chan.
It was interesting seeing his LP. Initially this season, I thought Chan had really made strides artistically. Now I'm not so sure. It's always beautiful to watch him skate, just from a technical standpoint--such gorgeous motion as he bends deep in his knees to gain speed and then ascends more upright. His skating has its own rhythm, I feel. BUT--the problem is, his movement sometimes has nothing to do with the music he's skating to. In the LP, his highlight moves didn't match highlights in the music. Maybe he was just off in this performance. But real musicality was once again missing.
Hanyu, on the other hand, does have that innate musicality. I find him very unpolished and imprecise in his presentation--he needs better posture and crisper movement IMO--yet somehow, he does capture the flow and mood of the music. Whereas Chan sort of skates to his own soundtrack.
12-09-2012, 12:59 PM
I haven't read the thread, and will probably post more after I do, but I just have to say that I am so happy for Daisukee to win this! I wasn't sure that he could do it, but he did, and he proved to everyone that said he was "done" that he was still one of the best. Dai was the only one in the men's GPF who didn't win a gold medal during the regular season, since he qualified with two silvers, so now Daisuke has his gold, too. Every one of those men won a gold this season, so it is perfect
Also, I have to add how impressed I was by Javier! He really killed it! What a performance! It's a shame that he didn't win a medal :( It would've really been something if Javi had knocked Chan off the podium. I think everyone would've been shocked.
Last edited by Butterscotch17; 12-09-2012 at 01:32 PM.
12-09-2012, 01:12 PM
Yes. After seeing the COR I though Chan improved artistically.
But now I doubt about that. After all It's not that easy to improve.
I guess he just has a better lp than last season.
But Dai's program is worse than before and made mistakes but got 90 in pcs. the same pcs with Chan.
That didn't happen before..So..
I don't think the judges are abandoning Chan.
They just don't treat Chan like before.. a little. And I think it's a good thing.
As for Hanyu Yes He has a great musicality and he is expressive. But that expression looks awkward for me. In lp...
His execution is a little awkward overall too.
His program has no transition. He looks just go element to element.
So I think the judges give that PCS to Hanyu because of his potential. not what he actually does in competition.
But it's just my opinion. maybe he is just not my style.
I thought he was overscored at 2012 worlds too and Joubert should have been on podium.
Last edited by lea; 12-09-2012 at 01:49 PM.