You're totally right. I guess it's just hard for us to ignore Yuna & Mao rivalry as it was the highlight in former Olys, but Yuna had been absent for a while and Mao was/is reforming her jumps since then, so the other girls may have more advantages than we can imagine at the moment.As for Sochi I think it is no longer about Yuna and Mao. I can now see more than two contenders in ladies field. Sure, Yuna is a front runner as of now but younger skaters are coming to the front as well. Russia has Liza, Adelina and Julia to name a few, Canada has Kaetlyn and America has GG. Ashley will be there and I cannot overlook Carolina, Akiko, Mirai or Kanako. All of them have potential of either maturing or declining (due to their age) by the time. 2013-2014 will be so exciting for FS fans!
I think she entered Kokutai once or twice before, but I don't think she ever entered that competition along with 4CC and Worlds. The way she messed up her FS in Jpnse Nats was painful to watch, and I felt maybe she was getting a bit tired from competing up to GPF. That's why I think the Kokutai competition is too much for her. However, I'm guessing maybe she wanted to enter herself so she can do better than she did in Nats, regain her confidence again, then go on to 4CC and Worlds. If so, it might be good for her. I certainly do hope the Jpnse Fed didn't force her though...Akiko attended Kokutai, the national sports fest, last year too? As 4CC is in Japan and there will be no competition for her at all in the event, I think she takes it as another opportunity to skate in a competitive but less tensive atmosphere? Hopefully she was not forced to attend it by her federation. I am looking forward to seeing her skate both programs clean!
Well, like the others, not aware of the Special Olympics commitment. Of course, it makes sense she wouldn't be at 4CC then. My opinion previously came without having that knowledge, so thanks for everyone for providing that info.
Honestly I do wish she could be at 4CC because she's had some memorable 4CC performances in the past. Her World Championship in 2009 came after a fantastic 4CC competition, after all.
Mrs. P - YuNa did not go to 4CC in 2010, in her home country, and she had a decent outing at the Olympics.
As a selfish YuNa fan, I would love to see her skate more rather than less, but the selfless side of me believes she knows what she wants or is best for her. She doesn't seem to have a single-track mind, so I don't think even winning Worlds in London is her first priority anyhow.
"It's all in your mind, girls!" - Irina
Firstly, I just want to say that I do not think die-hard Mao fans are the most unbiased interpreters of Mai's words, just as die-hard YuNa fans may not be, either. Fluent/native Japanese speakers exist who are also YuNa fans and have interpreted what Mai says, without inserting any of their "personal touches", I should say. Although one could fairly say that interpretation always involves some level of subjectivity and, to that extent, some bias from the interpreter by the nature of its job.
Saying "Maybe the judges like her" is far different from saying "Maybe the judges like her skating." The former, which is what Mai actually said, implies judge favoritism to me. Is my interpretation not acceptable at any level? Is it completely unreasonable for me, or other YuNa fans, to take the less positive view? I doubt any of us are losing sleep over it because the show will not change how skaters skate at actual competitions in the future. But, we're figure skating fans who talk about irrelevant stuff all the time on skating forums...because it's fun for us and I don't think it's either kind or acceptable to suggest we have some personality defects/hallucinations/vicarious persecution complex just because we don't agree with one person's translation.
I admit I have come to not like Mai from what I can see and understand in her participation in this show (please? am I allowed to have my own point of view without having some kind of illness?) Citing one's own experience as a competitor, and then stating that you don't know why YuNa scores so high (claiming ignorance) is implying something along the lines of "although I am familiar with the scoring methods and standards for figure skating, there is nothing in YuNa's skating that I can identify that justifies how she scores so high relative to the others. Nothing to do with athleticism, or artistic merit. It's just so mysterious...hmm, in matters like this perhaps it's best to just say 'No comment!' hehehhehee..."
The fact that these comments were said after clips of YuNa's NRW outing...with her popped 3-jump combo...and her falling on the 2T attached to her successful 3S...her only mistakes and nothing else (no clips of her renowned 3Lz-3T, or artistic flourishes, etc.) then landing in 1st place... I mean, what is the average viewer supposed to think? It's exactly the sort of thing that fans the flames of bot-wars.
None of this in any way changes my respect and affection for Mao. Mao has always been a class act.
Actually, the Special Olympics ends on Tuesday, February 5, and Four Continents begins Wednesday, February 6. Air distance from Pyeongcheng to Osaka, 706 kilometers. Time, 52 minutes.
In fact, the ladies SP isn't until Saturday. Yu-na could pass out the medals to the Olympians on Tuesday, go clubbing with Michelle on Wednesday, smooze with the IOC folks on Thursday, catch the red eye to Osaka and still have time to get in a practice.
Either way, the dates of the events are pretty close. Maybe YuNa likes to meditate and sleep in a cryogenic restoration chamber for a week between major appearances. I like to rejuvenate between busy work weeks by slothing at home and lurking forums. Whereas some of my friends like to be work party work party clubbing party why won't you come out with us more prettykeys? Go go go!
I'm glad that more skating fans were made aware of YuNa's involvement. Since she's a major focus of my attention when I discuss figure skating, I take it for granted the things I talk about with my fellow fans.
Um, I'm married and I still go clubbing once in a while. I usually like to show my bling if there are guys trying to cause trouble.
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(After the prediction of gold medalist for Sochi Olympics)
Panel 1 : Legends could've seen what's going on..
Panel 2, Mai : Yeah..
Panel 3 : I just noticed that the legend skaters who picked Mao for the gold are all women.
Panel 1 : Yes, Katia and Dorothy.
Panel 3 : It seems that they were right in judging...
Panel 1 : You think that women usually predict more accurately?
Panel 3 : I think so.
Panel 2（Mai） : Besides, they both are gold medalists. Skaters who picked Yuna are not gold medalist except Kulik. It means more gold medalist picked Mao than Yuna.
Panel 3 : I don't care about other skaters opinions.
Panel 1 : You don't care about them? You made a daring remark.
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and i have seen that mao asada was Criticized. Most recently, in nhk trophy, as euro commentor said that "ridiculous. traversty of justice"
I think that the most strangely, her pcs is always much Higher than Akiko Suzuki's pcs. (gpf- mao had seven points ahead in pcs than suzuki)
here is PCS list. And, please check who is real pcs queen. i think that carolina and mao (maybe in olympic season joannie, too?)
mao's 10 nhk terrible... pcs/ tes percent; 166%
sometimes maofans claims that "mao is strong in technically than artistry" but, after i saw this charts, i think that claim is different with facts. she is "artistry mao"
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