If Liza wins Russian nationals or even wins a world medal which is extremely dobtful her pcs is not going to go from 53 to 63 and would need to be like 66 to go to Mao Carolina or Yuna level. The fact is that no one needs a 3f3t or anything like that. If Yuna can keep doing 3lz 3t and have it be consistent then maybe it will be needed. It's far more likely that yuna stops doing 3/3 than all of a sudden Mao or Carolina start doing them.
Thanks for your kindness.
Originally Posted by aftertherain
You are most welcome.
Originally Posted by Daniel5555
I'm kind of waiting for a new star to pop up. The event is more than a year away, so there is always the chance.
Talking of Yuna and Mao, assuming they both do clean programs, Yuna will be the winner again.
Mao will have to improve her toe jumps(Lutz, Flip) OR bring back 3A to beat Yuna in TES.
But we never know what will happen. As I said, the event is more than a year away!
Just for the sake of conversation, let's just look at the BV as planned by some of the skaters. You can see my work below.
Won't make any comments, just let you read and discuss.
3S - 4.2
Actual BV at GPF: 55.78
Actual at NRW: 51.88
Actual at GPF: 51.97
3Z - 6.00
3F - 5.30
LSp4 - 2.70
StSq3 - 3.30
2A-3Tx - 8.14
3S-2T-2L - 8.03
CCosp 4 3.5
3L+2A SEQx - 7.39
StSq3 - 3.30
Actual at GPF: 51.80
the Golden Era
Liza's PCS is so poor that she must do 2 triple axels next season imo
Originally Posted by gmyers
I expected so much from Mirai after seeing her at the last Olympics; pressures get the best of her performance and CHANCE for improvement. The same when I saw Liza last year; might be some chance to get there, if she greatly improves her PCS (I still see a potential, but it's been a long wait) and her speed. Julia... if she gains artistry without losing her jumps, will be a HARD contender; but unlikely so fast enough for Sochi. I love all three, still expect a lot.
However, now that a few mentioned 3A and quads, I'm fascinated to say that I'm all for cheering Liza doing quads.
LIZA FOR QUADS--! Who's with me?
the Golden Era
doing quad is out of the question
Originally Posted by bebevia
but 3A could be an option for her next season to get a bigger score compensating from her low PCS, her 2A are still huge and gets big distance
Actually I heard(don't remember the source) that Yuna's Layback spin is planned for level3. Obviously she's not doing Biellmann this season.
Originally Posted by Mrs. P
And we have to take edge calls into consideration.
What about Kaitlyn Osmond of Canada? She is 16 and this year has won Nebelhorn, Skate Canada, and just had an amazing skate at the qualifying competition for Canadian nationals called the Challenge. She scored 198.70 which would have won worlds last year or the GPF this year. Her technical score was 66.75
Originally Posted by creme cup
Here is her scoresheet:
and here is her short program scoresheet:
Last edited by trains; 12-09-2012 at 11:34 PM.
the Golden Era
thats with inflation the highest she will place is top 5 if she does well
Originally Posted by trains
her pcs wont be that high Yuna, Mao, Carolina and Ashley will score higher and beat her in PCS
Actually, even 3A is nonsense. I'm hoping she manages 3/3 good. But cheering for one is allowed.
Originally Posted by sky_fly20
I wouldn't rule out Elizaveta. She's getting used to her growth spurt, but she's exciting to watch when she's on. I wouldn't rule out any of the Russian ladies for that matter. They are all talented, but haven't quite been able to break through as a lot of people thought they would. Even though Liza & Julia had spurts of grand prix success. They're not as polished in the presentation side of things, but they got the jumps. Plus, home-court advantage. I also really like Zijun and want a keep an eye out for her progress up to the Olympics.
Make it three of us. I read that Japanese and Korean media already started Yuna vs Mao debates and it makes me sick. I would support Yuna vs Osmond rivalry discussion with all my heart
Originally Posted by Tonichelle
Actually, Korean Media doesn't account Mao in consideration. Korean media states that Yuna's rivalry is in fact herself
Originally Posted by babayaga