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actually, it was about Kim being overscored.. the OP changed the title
no the mods did as it was suggested by other members that this was really more about the way the skaters are portrayed on youtube.
actually, it was about Kim being overscored.. the OP changed the title
So it is impossible to be a fan of both Yuna AND Mao? It certainly seems that way.
Sorry, I like them both and if they are in the same competition I want the best to win.
Under CoP, a fantastic skater who botches a couple of jumps can come out a winner against mediocre skaters with mediocre jumps, but s/he won't be able to own the win because there will be fans who protest it.
Welcome, ohwylime. Thanks for joining the Golden Skate Forum.
The videos that you are looking at are several years old now. Things have calmed down quite a bit in the fan wars between the "Maosketeers" and the "Yuna dholes" When Yu-na Kim and Mao Asada were fighting it out for World and Olympic championships the figure skating boards were full of shouting matches by youthful partisans who wanted to re-fight World War II.
Under CoP, a fantastic skater who botches a couple of jumps can come out a winner against mediocre skaters with mediocre jumps, but s/he won't be able to own the win because there will be fans who protest it. So in order for a skater to take pride in the victory, s/he has to land at least most of the jumps. This would be the case even if the competition was adequately judged. Looking at how Patrick is behaving lately, it's clear his multiple fall wins last year did influence him mentally in a bad kind of way.
Now, if the competition is poorly judged, and YouTube can point this out backed by footage, well, that's even worse. CoP suffers, credility of figure skating as a sports suffers, the skater (of course) is mentally scarred, etc. It's just bad all around.
*hums* let it be... let it be... let it be... oh, let it be...
I think it's possibly to like and admire them both. Fandom to me implies a level of emotional involvement that means that if they are in head to head competition, you will want your favorite to do better. I do like them both very much. However, I like Kostner even more, so if they are competing against her, I want Kostner to win - preferably with a great skate, but I'm not too picky.So it is impossible to be a fan of both Yuna AND Mao? It certainly seems that way.
And thank goodness for that! I remember the first time I encountered video commentary. It wasn't a separate video but written posts under a perfectly wonderful video. Of course it was one of Michelle's, because I looked her vids up the most. I was so agitated to see such foul language used against anyone, but especially against a young person who had done nothing but try to excel at a sport. I felt almost grimy after I read it. I can't understand why anyone would be that scurrilously intense about a total stranger.
I'm very confused with all this controversy surrounding Mao and Yuna. I know it's a country rivalry thing, but I was shocked to see even the country news media (Japanese especially.. or at least they were the ones I found on Youtube) projecting negative reports on the skaters.
I hate what the rabid "fans" did on Youtube. But i doubt anyone has gotten more crazy videos posted about them as Yu-Na has
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But whatever, it doesn't matter, because Yu-Na is still an Olympic champion, the whole world saw her win it gloriously, and no one can ever rewrite the past to take it away from her. So the haters can just drown in their own bitterness.
Jaylee, I used to work with young kids, and they'd always stay, but he started it. To which I'd reply, but you continued it. Spare us this sort of tl;dr historical narrative, nobody cares nor wants to return to the days of the bot wars. Especially since morozombie has already summed it up so well.
And on the other hand, Mao Asada is still a two-time World Champion and has landed a record three triple axels in a single event by a lady and no one can ever take those away from her.
Allegations of "paying off the judges" and the like have appeared on both sides. If one side accuses the other of cheating more than the other does, does that make it okay? NO, because they're both still doing it.
My point is, no matter who started it, the "other side" continued it. Quite frankly, both sides are to blame. :sarcasm:
Yuna and Mao are both beautiful skaters in their own rights.
I know that we've allowed this thread on here - so it openned up the can of worms - but let's not start calling out youtube posters as they cannot defend themselves to the allegations on another board. We don't allow board dragging, but that also applies to youtube.