I was watching his EX for NHK Throphy....
It's amazing how he interprets the song (since I'm Japanese) and the lyrics are awesome.
I honestly feel his artistry and his musical interpretation is a lot better than Patrick Chan's and Takahashi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHzTL...=results_video
Is artistry a feminine quality?
Word.Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue
He has a wonderful blend of power and grace. Was his first jump a quad?To me, his long legs give him a unique line.
There are all forms of artistry, those which are innate; those that are taught, learnt, developed and self realised; and those which are by products from just doing something extremely well, unique and better than any others before them.
It is worth to note, an artistic skater is not always artistic all the time, but they have higher chance of establishing real artistry than someone who is not deemed artistic. However, this is not to say some one that is less artistic is not capable of great art, since some of the best arts are actually purely accidental, by chance, luck and in the right time at the right place. It depends entirely on the context of how the work came about, who they collaborate with, what they do, where, how and for what special occasion, or things that might have inspired the the work, context etc.
I consider Hanyu is artistic in the sense when he is truly on fire, he is able capable of displaying pure techniques that are prone to integrate seamlessly with his musicality (regardless whether it is suited to the program, or music subject matter), then by the peak which he reached in that moment.... it became an art itself, in its uniqueness, originality, truth and authenticity. Not all the arts are the same value and to be appreciated equally.
I'd say the title of this thread is misleading, since I think Hanyu's type of artistry itself is not dependent on his gender, though perhaps different genders do appreciate his artistry differently!
Last edited by os168; 12-15-2012 at 03:52 PM.
He is a genius, no doubt. Soft and beautiful with childish face, but I don't know what will be his style when he becomes man. I hope his style a little bit changes because I saw some girlish gesture. I like when the men are men on the ice. But this is really matter of taste. And I hope too, you don't misunderstand my poor english, because I can't say better. I adore when Yuzu's eyes full of passion, and he skates passionately. Oh I almost forgot, his technic are really manly!!!! I like it!!
A very good definition of artistic. I am always on the fence with Hanyu. His technicality is very masculine (except maybe his Bielman spin). This program that you posted does have him do some really feminine moves and he sometimes does the say thing in his competitive programs. I find that some people think that in order to be artistic you have to be feminine. Some of our most artistic male skaters did skate feminine like, at least in my opinion, such as Browning, Wylie, Chan, Abbott, and many more I am sure.
In the past I always struggled with Weir who most found to be very artistic. I never found him to be artistic but, just very feminine. And in his case it was just him expressing who he is off the ice.
Artistry is like beauty, its up to the eye of the beholder.
Sorry, meant to state that the skater listed above DID NOT skate feminine, at least to me. I should wear my glasses when I write.
Just wondering....what does "skating feminine" mean?
Hmmm, well just because you are a woman or feminine doesn't mean your are artistic or good at artistry though at the same time the irony is we tend to think flowy things and classical music and showing emotion as "female oriented". I have to say whatever you call it performance, artistry Hanyu is awesome BUT he is still young and it shows a bit; he doesn't have that maturity, that confidence of Dai or even Chan - that will come with time ie. the smiles when he makes tiny errors while enduring,charming, cute etc etc not necessarily artisitc
Classical music is feminine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2W1Wi2U9sQ#t=0m38s
Last edited by Mathman; 12-15-2012 at 07:33 PM.
^^ What's funny is that in the Classical era, women were deemed unfit to compose classical music because classical music--one of the pillars of the Age of Reason--was seen as too rational and enlightened for overly-emotional women to comprehend, much less compose.
The most artistic skater among the men is Daisuke Takahashi!
Artistic, I am not sure, but Yuzuru is for sure a very emotional skater *nod*
No. It's my favorite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuusqy50yk Valse Sentimentale
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Look at the ballet dancers, you absolutely know wich are feminine and wich are manly movements. Every ballet dancers are artistry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifYmB9b8LU4 Godunov
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