Last edited by NMURA; 12-21-2012 at 11:05 AM.
That was an amazing skate from Hanyu....wow!
Great performance by Hanyu and Dai, and wow.... the amount of energy and excitement in the arena was palpable even behind Youtube!
I'd have them alot closer, maybe something like 4-5 points apart. It seems to me Hanyu had been a tad inflated, while Dai seems to have been held down for his short. Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised at the result consider Dai's SP is choreographed by Nanami Abe, Hanyu's old coach. How would it look on JSF if that program beat Hanyu's (star choreographer, coach) WR program at home. They'd certainly loose face.
In any case it seems JFS is determined to make Hanyu as their favs to Sochi (My dream for him last year lol), or hold him up in case he faltering in FS due Hanyu's stamina issues. Th boy looks tired and pale today, a bit worrying, hope he is going to be okay for his FS. For some reason in FS, I think Dai may have the upper hand this time, a bit or morozov voodoo magic can't hurt, even if I totally dislike the program itself.
Looking at the protocols, Hanyu gained so many 9s and 9.5 PCS including skating skills.. interesting. He used to get 7s to high 8s early in the season. But overall Dai got higher PCS which seems about right, but less generous with GOEs relative to what Hanyu received compare with their previous GPF outing.
Last edited by OS; 12-21-2012 at 01:27 PM.
Hanyu is a tremendous skater and star... I am full of admiration for him. Like Kozuka too so sorry that he is getting eclipsed.
I disagree with this part because I don’t know what does Abe have to do with Daisuke’s score?Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised at the result consider Dai's SP is choreographed by Nanami Abe, Hanyu's old coach. How would it look on JSF if that program beat Hanyu's (star choreographer, coach) WR program at home. They'd certainly loose face.
At Japan Nationals, Daisuke got
Daisuke Nats 43.39 44.65
Daisuke lost because of TES. If you compare with international competitions, the highest PCS Daisuke got was at GPF, the only time he was clean this season.
Daisuke GPF 49.15 43.14
At home Japan Nationals he was not clean but his PCS increased to 44.65, which is 1.51 points higher than what he got when he was clean at GPF.
And the highest international PCS Hanyu got was at SA, his first GP outing, which is odd enough.
Hanyu Nats 53.78 43.90
Hanyu SA_ 51.71 43.36
His PCS only increased by 0.54 points at Japan Nationals. Usually skaters get higher PCS as the season proceeds, but Hanyu’s PCS is not increasing much.
Then we compare with other skaters’ Japan Nationals scores and their highest international scores:
Kozuka Nats 43.03 41.55
Kozuka GPF 46.64 40.75
Kozuka’s PCS increased by 0.8 points at home, more than Hanyu’s increase.
Mura Nats 45.58 38.90
Mura TEB 41.15 35.50
Mura’s PCS increased by 3.4 points!
Oda Nats 42.20 39.55
Oda SC_ 44.61 37.53
Oda’s PCS increased by 2.02 points despite his fall today.
Hino Nats 37.53 30.75
Hino JGPF 38.20 29.35
Hino’s PCS increased by 1.4 points.
Shoma Uno Nats_______ 35.16 32.40
Shoma Uno JGP Germany 33.62 29.86
Uno’s PCS increased by 2.54 points.
So besides Machida who had a total splat today, basically everyone’s PCS increased by more than Hanyu. If we look at everyone’s score today, then I don’t think JSF or anybody inflated Hanyu’s score.
I don’t know what you mean by Hanyu “used to get 7s to high 8s early in the season”? At SA, his first GP outing, he gotLooking at the protocols, Hanyu gained so many 9s and 9.5 PCS including skating skills.. interesting. He used to get 7s to high 8s early in the season.
8.64 in SS
8.36 in TR
8.89 in P/E
8.68 in CH
8.79 in IN
At Japan Nationals, he got
8.85 in SS
8.50 in TR
8.90 in P/E
8.80 in CH
8.85 in IN
Not that much difference. If you look at others’ scores, you’ll find bigger differences.
I don’t understand this sentence either. Daisuke was the only one clean at GPF SP, but he made mistakes today which affected his GOEs. Hanyu, on the contrary, made mistakes and had a fall at GPF SP. He was clean today and earned GOEs similar to SA and NHK SP’s.But overall Dai got higher PCS which seems about right, but less generous with GOEs relative to what Hanyu received compare with their previous GPF outing.