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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirunna View Post
    So is it official then? She withdrew?
    No. It is news.
    And Mishin said - she may withdraw (it means - and may not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    No. It is news.
    And Mishin said - she may withdraw (it means - and may not).
    Thank you. I hope she skates, she should be able to make the podium even with a couple of mistakes

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    , so no chnnce of competing today? Im soo disappointed
    this was the perfect nationals for her to finally win gold with no Julia

    Sotnikova will become a 4 time Russian Champion ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    , so no chnnce of competing today? Im soo disappointed
    this was the perfect nationals for her to finally win gold with no Julia

    Sotnikova will become a 4 time Russian Champion ?
    What is your problem with Adelina?? I remember you liked her last year. And she skated very well in the SP.
    AlexRus just replied this is just news and Liza didn't withdrew yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirunna View Post
    What is your problem with Adelina?? I remember you liked her last year. And she skated very well in the SP.
    AlexRus just replied this is just news and Liza didn't withdrew yet.
    I gave up on Adelina, she is a headcase which I could never support
    Julia and Liza are the future of the Russian ladies skaters maybe Elena too but not Adelina

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    I gave up on Adelina, she is a headcase which I could never support
    Julia and Liza are the future of the Russian ladies skaters maybe Elena too but not Adelina
    You have up on a 16 year old because she can't skate consistently yet? Your expectations are a bit high IMO. Just watch Kostner
    Julia and Elena are too young, puberty might hit them hard. Liza's jumps were too good in the first place to succumb to puberty

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    I gave up on Adelina, she is a headcase which I could never support
    Julia and Liza are the future of the Russian ladies skaters maybe Elena too but not Adelina
    So a season and a half of poor results which did include a national title and the potential for another and you're calling her a head case? Ashley Wagner was much worse before she went to John Nicks and now look at her. Adelina could easily be the future of Russian skating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shallow edging View Post
    So a season and a half of poor results which did include a national title and the potential for another and you're calling her a head case? Ashley Wagner was much worse before she went to John Nicks and now look at her. Adelina could easily be the future of Russian skating.
    Plus 3 medals on GP circuit, another junior world medal and youth Olympics silver. For many skaters, this season and a half would be considered successful

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Now that I'm less preoccupied by placements and scores, I have just noticed that this was the first competition in HISTORY where the 10 top ladies all completed 3/3's!!!!

    VERY impressive stat!
    Combos SP (info from forums, protocols are not availiable yet) in starting order
    1 3Lz+3Lo< fall
    2 3Lz+3T maybe UR
    3 3Lz+3T step-out
    4 3T step out
    5 3T+3T very good (Sotnikova)
    6 3Lz+2T
    7 3F+2T
    8 3T+3T
    9 3Lz+3T<
    10 3T+3T
    11 3F+3T
    12 3Lz+3T Wow! (Liza)
    13 3Lz+3T
    14 3Lz(not ideal exit)+3T
    15 3T+3T
    16 3T+3T
    17 3F+3T
    18 3Т+3Т fall

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    I agree. It's waaay too early to give up on Adelina. She's only 16 or 17 years old...give her a chance to grow and mature before you throw the towel in. The only thing Adelina is missing is confidence and, as with most girls, that comes with age and maturity. She's massively talented and you shouldn't give up on that kind of talent without giving it an opportunity to develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanatic View Post
    I agree. It's waaay too early to give up on Adelina. She's only 16 or 17 years old...give her a chance to grow and mature before you throw the towel in. The only thing Adelina is missing is confidence and, as with most girls, that comes with age and maturity. She's massively talented and you shouldn't give up on that kind of talent without giving it an opportunity to develop.
    Just look at Kostner/Czisny/Wagner/Suzuki!

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    LADIES SHORT PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT (updated)

    1. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva - 69.50 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
    2. Adelina Sotnikova - 66.99 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
    3. Elena Radionova - 64.58 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
    4. Polina Korobeynikova - 60.85 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
    5. Anna Pogorilaya - 60.45 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
    6. Alena Leonova - 59.64 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    7. Evgenia Gerasimova - 59.57 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    8. Nikol Gosviani - 57.77 Short Program, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
    9. Serafima Sakhanovich - 56.50 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    10. Alsu Kayumova - 53.89 Short Program
    11. Maria Stavitskaya - 53.40 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    12. Ksenia Makarova - 53.36 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    13. Elizaveta Yushchenko - 51.40 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    14. Natalia Ogoreltseva - 51.16 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    15. Alina Maximova - 50.66 Short Program
    16. Julia Li - 47.56 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    17. Sofia Biryukova - 46.98 Short Program, 2nd Copy
    18. Tatiana Fedoseeva - 44.71 Short Program

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    What time is Ladies FS?
    it is ok if Liza doesnt skate, she and RN dont get along, I ll be dissappointed cause that would have been a fight now with Adelina and Elena but Yagudin never won Nationals and I d be fine if Liza would have his career too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    What time is Ladies FS?
    it is ok if Liza doesnt skate, she and RN dont get along, I ll be dissappointed cause that would have been a fight now with Adelina and Elena but Yagudin never won Nationals and I d be fine if Liza would have his career too.
    Ladies FS starts in about an hour I believe. I was thinking the exact same thing about Liza and Yagudin

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Just look at Kostner/Czisny/Wagner/Suzuki!
    Exactly. Some skaters take a little longer to "find themselves" in this sport. Adelina started as a junior phenom but she's run into the same pitfalls that most girls her age do in this sport. She's retained all of her jumps, spins, speed, etc., so that's the great news. From here, it's just a matter of figuring out how to make it all work again. She's been struggling this season but to turn in a clean SP at a pressure-filled event like nationals is a big deal (IMO opinion anyway).

    Same thing for Liza T. She's had a rough season too. It took some time but she adjusted to her new height and weight and slowly gained her confidence back over the course of the season. She was wonderful in her SP and I really hope she is able to compete in the LP.

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