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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Leonova - what?
    Her skating at Nationals (and before, in fact in all competitions after Worlds-2012) was not good.
    She was not happy and cried after Nationals (unlike Makarova, who did not look disturbed).
    Yes, this is what I think, too: sending her to Euros would be really risky for the Russian Federation, especially considering that she placed ahead of Makarova just because of her absurdly high PCS, even for a National competition (64 for a program with two falls plus two other major mistakes and poor choreography and ss... )!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Yes, this is what I think, too: sending her to Euros would be really risky for the Russian Federation, especially considering that she placed ahead of Makarova just because of her absurdly high PCS, even for a National competition (64 for a program with two falls plus two other major mistakes and poor choreography and ss... )!
    If gosviani doesn't have her jumps - in fact if any of the Russians don't have there jumps -there pcs will be worse than either leonOvas or Makarovas!! If tuktamisheva gets 53 than gosviani at best will ge 43

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    If gosviani doesn't have her jumps - in fact if any of the Russians don't have there jumps -there pcs will be worse than either leonOvas or Makarovas!! If tuktamisheva gets 53 than gosviani at best will ge 43
    This is true, but at least Liza or Gosviani (and Sotnikova, even with a bit more mistakes) ARE actually landing their jumps, when Leonova is not

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    But you need good pcs. Liza is not getting anywhere with 53 pcs and the top contenders will all get 65 to 70 making her jumps meaningless. Leonova almost reached 60 in pcs in 2012 worlds. Mao can do two triples in a free skate and win an event! Pcs is the most important thing in ladies skating. Then steps than spins than jumps. Russia is going to send all these people who can jump sometimes and none of them will be top 5- hopefully top 10. Probably top 10 but the pcs is so bad.

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    Seems like in Italian Team the situation is quite similar with the spots issues: www.artonice.it/?q=en/node/12898

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Seems like in Italian Team the situation is quite similar with the spots issues: www.artonice.it/?q=en/node/12898
    It's basically the same, but sending Zandron instead of Bacchini is much more ridiculous than sending Kovtun instead of Menshov.

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    Ladies Entries

    Laura RASZYKOVA (CZE) don't obtain the TES in free skating at New Years Cup in Bratislava and she's not going in Poland or Latvia before European so the Czech place is for ...... Eliska BREZINOVA (Brezina's sister) because she's the 1st Czech in Bratislava http://www.slovakskating.org/nyc/2013/CAT002RS.HTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    If gosviani doesn't have her jumps - in fact if any of the Russians don't have there jumps -there pcs will be worse than either leonOvas or Makarovas!! If tuktamisheva gets 53 than gosviani at best will ge 43
    Yes, Gosviani is risky.
    She only once landed 7 triples in FS this season (at Nationals), other competitions - 5 triples or less (and other mistakes, like A with no score instead of 2A).

    But Leonova looks even more risky with her fall from 3T+3T and 1A (SP), 4 serious mistakes (including 2 falls) at jumping elements (FS) at Nationals.

    Makarova's PCS becomes lower now, because of no clean skating for a long time.

    Korobeynikova (she is also substitute) newer had good PCS and now her jumps are also unstable.

    So Gosviani is risky, but others are even more risky.

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    Belgian Lady

    There was a really promising Belgian lady a couple of years back. She was injured last year and isn't on the team again this year.

    I can't even recall her name, but she had excellent technique landed 7 triples in her FS and was top 10 c. 2010....anyone got a name/news?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    But you need good pcs. Liza is not getting anywhere with 53 pcs and the top contenders will all get 65 to 70 making her jumps meaningless. Leonova almost reached 60 in pcs in 2012 worlds. Mao can do two triples in a free skate and win an event! Pcs is the most important thing in ladies skating. Then steps than spins than jumps. Russia is going to send all these people who can jump sometimes and none of them will be top 5- hopefully top 10. Probably top 10 but the pcs is so bad.
    Liza had PCS 57.48.
    FS Component 17.11.2012 57.48 ISU GP Trophee Bompard 2012 Ladies Singles Seniors

    And Russia now has not Senior Ladies, who can earn higher total score than Liza and Adelina.

    At Euro the only higher level skater is Kosther (btw, won by Liza at GP Event past season). Korpi is comparable level, others lower level.

    At Worlds situation is much more complicated.
    But "jumps are at the last place" only for Wagner.
    Korpi practices programs with (potentially) 10 triples in SP+FS.
    Kostner tries 3Lz.
    Yuna Kim performs 3Lz+3T.
    Asada at GP Final jumped very much even in Gala, demonstrating that she can jump.
    Last edited by AlexRus; 01-05-2013 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    There was a really promising Belgian lady a couple of years back. She was injured last year and isn't on the team again this year.

    I can't even recall her name, but she had excellent technique landed 7 triples in her FS and was top 10 c. 2010....anyone got a name/news?

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    Ira VANNUT http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010708.htm
    Yes, very nice skater.

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    https://twitter.com/Tatjana21/status/289010393257480192
    K. Korpi (FIN) withdrawn from Europeans due to tendonitis (achilles tendon), A. Mikonsaari substitute.
    This author (Tatjana Flade) always gives "good" info (i.e. true).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    https://twitter.com/Tatjana21/status/289010393257480192


    This author (Tatjana Flade) always gives "good" info (i.e. true).
    Is just read it from Finnish Ice skating federation's web site, so it is really true, Kiira is not coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    https://twitter.com/Tatjana21/status/289010393257480192


    This author (Tatjana Flade) always gives "good" info (i.e. true).
    Because she always gets the information directly from the skaters

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    german pair skaters maylin hausch/daniel wende withdrew due to daniel s back injury... wish him a good recovery

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