I actually think that the ISU list is easier to discuss because I find that nats tend to be slightly inflated and/or result depend on who the federation likes that season and other non-on-the-ice stuff. (Not that other comps don't have it too, but it's more pronounced at nats)
It's too bad that Michelle didn't really do COP b/c I would've liked to see her on the list.
But if she'd trained for COP all her life, she would've been a great COP lady. Sorry I wasn't more clear in my comment.
Still, she was not naturally extremely flexible nor a particularly fast spinner, so it might have been hard for her to add multiple features and maintain high quality in the same spin. Maybe she would have had to make choices between level 3/4 with 0 or -1 GOE vs. level 1/2 with +1 GOE. If this had been an issue at the peak of her career, no doubt her choice of strategy would have influenced the direction that other skaters chose to take. (Slutskaya and Cohen being more flexible and faster spinners at the top levels in the early years of IJS no doubt had their own influence.)
And her double axel could have gotten the most pluses, especially in her early/mid-teens.then, her jumps would have seldom received +2 or +3, only her loop or salchow maybe, because her lutz and flip didn't have take off edges as clean as the CoP requires;
Again, if she had been designing her programs to win, at the points in her career when winning was well within her reach, she would have emphasized the qualities that the rules and judging trends told her what would be rewarded. E.g., it seemed that after about 2000 she reduced the complexity of her programs because she believed that she needed to maintain more speed throughout the program to compete with a superfast skater like Slutskaya. If there had been clear places to reward transitions and complex choreography, Kwan might have been rewarded enough there to encourage her to make a different choice.then, her TR and CH marks would have been probably not so high, watching her Tosca/Bolero: they are beautiful programs (especially the first one!), but they didn't have a lot of transitions, and the choreographies were not CoP friendly, I'm afraid to say...
We'll never know, because the rules didn't change until she was at the end of her career struggling with injury. But I have no doubt that Kwan would have found ways to win approximately as often as she actually did, under different rules, during the period when she was at her peak.
It will be hard to compare score by score since there had been changes in rules and base points for elements and jumps. Both Irina and Sasha was during early COP periods. When Sasha had her 130+ score, her PCS was like 68+ something. Not sure how many triples she landed. Also in 2005 World Irina had 130+ score and that was one of her jump not got credited as she did three 3Lo and zayet out the rule. Had she replace that with simple 3T, she would have score close to 135ish.
I say COP score for lady was pretty much max out at Winter olympic where skater are allows to repeat three 2A and GOE was not average out to reflect the base value. So you can still have massive +GOE for simple jump like 2T etc.
After 2010, the spiral was taken out in SP and 2A was reduce back to 3.3. And also spiral only given one level in LP so, for skater like Miki who had highest score after 2010 so far can potentially add 4-5 points to her record.
I don't think we'll ever see 150 score again, but Yuna can def crack 140 again. And if Adelina and Tuk can skates to their potential, and with better improve PCS and maybe some Sochi bonus they can def crack 130+ score.
Michele did compete under COP at her last World's. She finished in 4th place .37 pts off the podium, which was also her last international competition.
We can only presume that she had COP friendly programs for 2006 since the USFSA aproved her for the Olympic team.
(Side note: I didn't really like "Carmina Burana" either.)
Last edited by aftertherain; 12-26-2012 at 06:01 PM.