After seeing Kim and Kostner at Nationals, I think Mao will be lucky to finish in third place at Worlds.
Welcome! And, my answer to your question: no, they wouldn't. At Nationals like Italian/Korean the judges don't have a comparison: there is one (sometimes two) excellent skater, the others are pretty normal, so they usually overscore that skater because he/she is clearly head and shoulders above all the rest; in Japan, for example, they have a lot of very good ladies so the scores aren't too inflated. But I believe that, when Kostner wouldn't receive 10 or 9.75 in international competitions, Yu-Na wasn't really a lot overscored: the technical score was correct, maybe the PCS would be 2-3 points lower, but not a lot I think...Hi guys. I'm Ben. I have been reading this forum for months but only now decided to register. I'm sooo happy with Yuna' s result! The queen is sooo back! I'm both a Yuna and a Caro fan believe it or not. I' ve been following these girls since I saw them at worlds in 2007. What I love most about them is their mature artistry and passion with which they both skate. Having said that, what do you think about theyr pcs scores at nationals both in sp and fs. It is the highest that females ever recieved under the new score system. Yuna: 35+, 75+ and Caro: 36+, 76+. Aren' t they too high? Would they be scored this high at worlds if they would skate clean? Just want an honest opinion from you guys. Thanks.
Welcome! And, my answer to your question: no, they wouldn't. At Nationals like Italian/Korean the judges don't have a comparison: there is one (sometimes two) excellent skater, the others are pretty normal, so they usually overscore that skater because he/she is clearly head and shoulders above all the rest; in Japan, for example, they have a lot of very good ladies so the scores aren't too inflated. But I believe that, when Kostner wouldn't receive 10 or 9.75 in international competitions, Yu-Na wasn't really a lot overscored: the technical score was correct, maybe the PCS would be 2-3 points lower, but not a lot I think...
I hate them!!!(then the interviewer started explaining that if Yuna gets silver or gold, Korea gets 3 spots, and Yuna sort of swayed back and forth a lil , like she's feeling the pressure, while the crowd cheered lol.)
- Let's give loud cheering for Yuna so she can earn THREE!
(cheering)
I hate them!!!
Hi guys. I'm Ben. I have been reading this forum for months but only now decided to register. I'm sooo happy with Yuna' s result! The queen is sooo back! I'm both a Yuna and a Caro fan believe it or not. I' ve been following these girls since I saw them at worlds in 2007. What I love most about them is their mature artistry and passion with which they both skate. Having said that, what do you think about theyr pcs scores at nationals both in sp and fs. It is the highest that females ever recieved under the new score system. Yuna: 35+, 75+ and Caro: 36+, 76+. Aren' t they too high? Would they be scored this high at worlds if they would skate clean? Just want an honest opinion from you guys. Thanks.
No, they probably won't receive those PCS in international competition. But I do believe their PCS should be in the mid 9s. They are both exceptional skaters, have great SS and interpretation. I never understood why in all other disciplines, judges hand out high 9s, even 10s for the best skaters but the ladies are still stuck in the mid 8s. I believe Caro and Yuna, as well as Mao when she's on, deserve those high PCS.
Why Yuna doesn't perform her 2A-3T? Or 3F-3T? In the first case she could then add a 2L to the 3S-2T and in the second she would abandon the 2T after 3S. I know she doesn't need it in order to win but she's definitely capable of doin so. Her 2A-3T was solid as a rock everytime she performed it and we've seen she still can do 3F-3T. Is it because of stamina? Or she just doesn't want to do what's not necessary? Do you have any idea?
They really should consider using dashes for the ignored judge in PCS as well. Either that or judge 7 was really harsh.
Absolutely breathtaking and moving. I, admittedly not a judge, would have given her a few tens in the PCS scores.
In addition to what others have said, I want to point out that after adjusting to the new rules, Yu-Na could've opted to keep her 2A/3T in the FS over the 3Lz/3T and wouldn't have sacrificed anything in base value. She could've changed her 3Lz/3T to a 3Lz/2t/2lo and replaced her current 2A/2t/2lo with a 2A/3T.
That's what a number of ladies who have a 3/3 in the SP do in the FS--they go for the 2A/3T because it gets them the same points but without the added pressure of going for a harder combo with no actual point reward.
So I find it extremely impressive that Yu-Na continues to go for the 3/3 in both the SP (where it gives a point advantage) and in the FS (where it doesn't). The rule changes meant that she likely had to lose one combo, but she opted to remove the easier of her two combos and keep her harder combo even though it didn't give her a point advantage.
Hyperbole. Technically, she's very strong. It just proves that low-profile Korean coaches are doing a better job than those big names. However, there is very little transition/choreography in those programs. Artistically, it's definitely a step-back.
(BTW, it still boggles me that doing a "3F, 2A+3T" has the same base value as a "3F+3T, 2A". Yuna can perform two triple-triples if she wants, but the system doesn't intrinsically reward it at all. In fact, doing the easier 2A+3T in the start of the second half of the program actually makes the "3F, 2A+3T" a better choice...)
it's wrong
Kim Yuna- 64.97, with 1Lu and triple flip+triple toe
Hi guys. I'm Ben. I have been reading this forum for months but only now decided to register. I'm sooo happy with Yuna' s result! The queen is sooo back! I'm both a Yuna and a Caro fan believe it or not. I' ve been following these girls since I saw them at worlds in 2007. What I love most about them is their mature artistry and passion with which they both skate. Having said that, what do you think about theyr pcs scores at nationals both in sp and fs. It is the highest that females ever recieved under the new score system. Yuna: 35+, 75+ and Caro: 36+, 76+. Aren' t they too high? Would they be scored this high at worlds if they would skate clean? Just want an honest opinion from you guys. Thanks.