01-06-2013, 10:22 AM
01-06-2013, 10:31 AM
They really should consider using dashes for the ignored judge in PCS as well. Either that or judge 7 was really harsh.
01-06-2013, 10:35 AM
Six Point Zero
Awesome! Much better than the yakking commentary on the live broadcast. Thanks!
Originally Posted by YunaBliss
01-06-2013, 10:36 AM
can't come down to Earth
I hate them!!!
Originally Posted by Nadia01
01-06-2013, 10:43 AM
I dont' think the crowd was doing it to be mean. They were going along w/ the interviewer/MC to maintain the good atmosphere. I just wish the MC hadn't pressured Yuna so much in front of everyone. Let the girl bask in happiness for a bit before she worries about worlds.
Originally Posted by prettykeys
01-06-2013, 10:48 AM
No, they probably won't receive those PCS in international competition. But I do believe their PCS should be in the mid 9s. They are both exceptional skaters, have great SS and interpretation. I never understood why in all other disciplines, judges hand out high 9s, even 10s for the best skaters but the ladies are still stuck in the mid 8s. I believe Caro and Yuna, as well as Mao when she's on, deserve those high PCS.
Originally Posted by francodimatia
01-06-2013, 11:26 AM
If the likes of P/B, S/S, V/T can get 9+ on PCS, these girls should get 9+.
Originally Posted by jiggs
Even Meryl and Tessa are no match when it comes to SS compare to Carolina.
01-06-2013, 12:02 PM
In addition to what others have said, I want to point out that after adjusting to the new rules, Yu-Na could've opted to keep her 2A/3T in the FS over the 3Lz/3T and wouldn't have sacrificed anything in base value. She could've changed her 3Lz/3T to a 3Lz/2t/2lo and replaced her current 2A/2t/2lo with a 2A/3T.
Originally Posted by Cherryy
That's what a number of ladies who have a 3/3 in the SP do in the FS--they go for the 2A/3T because it gets them the same points but without the added pressure of going for a harder combo with no actual point reward.
So I find it extremely impressive that Yu-Na continues to go for the 3/3 in both the SP (where it gives a point advantage) and in the FS (where it doesn't). The rule changes meant that she likely had to lose one combo, but she opted to remove the easier of her two combos and keep her harder combo even though it didn't give her a point advantage.
01-06-2013, 12:05 PM
01-06-2013, 12:21 PM
Hyperbole. Technically, she's very strong. It just proves that low-profile Korean coaches are doing a better job than those big names. However, there is very little transition/choreography in those programs. Artistically, it's definitely a step-back.
Originally Posted by Icey
01-06-2013, 12:40 PM
It's due to the jump rules where a skater can't repeat more than two triple types. If she does a 3F+3T or 2A+3T, she'll have repeated two Lutzes, two Salchows, and two Toes (or two Flips). She now also can't repeat the 2A three times as she has done in the past.
Originally Posted by jaylee
The most practical way she can get around this is by replacing the 3S with a 3Lo, though it's her weakest jump. She's then free to do the 2A+3T, thereby increasing her base value by about 3 points in total (.8 for the change to a 3Lo, and 2.4 for the change from a 2T to a 3T):
3Lz+3T, 3Lz, 3F, 3Lo, 3S, 2A+2T+2Lo, 2A+3T (in whatever order)
However, the 3Lo tends to be her nemesis, and for her it's worth having a clean program with high positive GOEs then risk going for the 3Lo.
(BTW, it still boggles me that doing a "3F, 2A+3T" has the same base value as a "3F+3T, 2A". Yuna can perform two triple-triples if she wants, but the system doesn't intrinsically reward it at all. In fact, doing the easier 2A+3T in the start of the second half of the program actually makes the "3F, 2A+3T" a better choice...)
Last edited by draqq; 01-06-2013 at 12:46 PM.
01-06-2013, 12:53 PM
That was great! And she really didn't have to go clean either-- what a treat for the crowd---the applause was deafening.
Count me in the crowd that misses her 2A-3T. Her 2A-3T was such a beauty, with height AND distance.
01-06-2013, 01:05 PM
Hmm, no. You don't have to like the choreography (and obviously you don't), but there are plenty of transitions and choreographed moments spread throughout the program.
Originally Posted by suzukifan27
Transitions: steps before the 3F, back spiral before the 3Lz (and an interesting exit), spread eagle into the 2A/2T/2Lo, Ina Bauer into the final 2A. Part of having good transitions is also by not having lots of set-up for elements, and the 3S right into the footwork sequence is an excellent example.
Her choreographed spiral sequence also is a mini-footwork sequence--more moves packed in there than a lot of ladies.
I agree with you on the mind-boggling. They floated around the idea of a combination bonus after the 2010 Olympic season, but they didn't pass it. They really should have, IMO.
Originally Posted by draqq
That's why for the ladies, you see so many 3T/3Ts in the SP but so many 2A/3Ts in the FS.
01-06-2013, 01:09 PM
Six Point Zero
Another great fancam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=UdiORV1rWjw
In this video the ice surface is overexposed, looking pure white against Yuna's figure. It creates an interesting effect visually.
01-06-2013, 01:14 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl
Originally Posted by venlac
both of you, Welcome to Golden Skate! We hope you post long & often.
Originally Posted by francodimatia