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    I think it is more about money and business.

    Mao is the poster child / cover lady of Japanese figure skating since young, with unique selling points including the 3A which are easy sell to catch the imagination of the public. There are a lot of people financially benefit from her stay at the top and have put in the time, resource, and investment from her sponsors, her agents, federations for almost a decade, and they will do their all to ensure she remain at the top or and have maximum chance of success include favourable PR. When you have one sport agency IMG that hold monopoly over the entire industry, 90% who's whos in figure skating in Japan (and the US). They are powerful to control the media output in which they can use to favour to their own most prized asset, driven by business upon the commercial value of the skater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrah View Post
    The Japanese public loves Mao because of her perceived personality. She's quietly mentally tough. And not at all spiteful or hateful. Always trying her best. Persevering. Does all the things that make her a champion with a smile and without causing a furor.

    Miki has been known to show her emotional instability on twitter, for example, and so she appears to be more of a drama queen type to Mao.
    Akiko is a sweet girl but she has not had the success that Mao has had.

    But it's the rare and uncommon combination of unassuming stoicism and sunny sweetness that Mao projects that makes her a star.

    Also, I think Mao has so many outstanding qualities besides her jumps that make her a special skater. Her presence on the ice is breathe-taking. I find myself watching Mao's performances again and again (and Daisuke's as well) but not the other skaters.
    I totally agree with you
    She's a real fighter like samurai! but she is such a sweet girl off the ice.
    We just can't stop loving her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Yes, Mao is the most important female skater in Japan at the moment, but Miki has won two world titles, one world bronze medal, plus one 4CC gold and one bronze, a silver at the GPF and five GP competitions; Mao has won two world titles, the OSM, two silver medals at worlds, two GPF, two 4CC gold and two 4CC silver, plus one 4CC bronze and eight GP competitions: yes, Mao has had better results (and I'm a big fan of her, too!), but not THAT better, if we watch at the real difference between her and Miki in the importance they have in Japan..
    Three GPF. 2005, 2008, 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Yes, Mao is the most important female skater in Japan at the moment, but Miki has won two world titles, one world bronze medal, plus one 4CC gold and one bronze, a silver at the GPF and five GP competitions; Mao has won two world titles, the OSM, two silver medals at worlds, two GPF, two 4CC gold and two 4CC silver, plus one 4CC bronze and eight GP competitions: yes, Mao has had better results (and I'm a big fan of her, too!), but not THAT better, if we watch at the real difference between her and Miki in the importance they have in Japan..
    I "compiled" a little picture of some results, just for reference, of Mao Asada and Miki Ando:

    http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8...adaandando.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by sequinsgalore View Post
    My own educated guess:

    - She was the young ingenue who had landed triple axels since age 12
    - Has landed triple flip-triple loops (the Japanese like the big combos)
    - Dominated the junior ranks
    - Flexibility in spins and spirals
    - Floating skating skills
    - Elegant performer w/ (usually) nice choreography
    - Titles (she trumps both Ando and Suzuki)

    Ando was also a young ingenue who landed quad salchows in her youth, but her spins weren't great and her performance skills lacking.

    Suzuki was a late bloomer, and I guess the media is always looking for the "next" thing. Her spins aren't great either, and she hasn't landed the big combos that awe.

    Mao Asada's qualities are what the majority usually look for in a ladies skater: feminity, flexibility and grace. Ando and Suzuki don't have these (as much), but you could say they make up for it in other areas.

    Asada just has that IT-quality... it's hard to put your finger on it.
    I do agree that think she fits the pretty princess stereotype that the majority of skating audience looks for and also her perceived child-like innocence. And I can see how that would make her very marketable in Japan, a country that just seems to love the image of a young sweet girl.
    But I really don't see how she has more IT quality than Suzuki... Her programs are way too generic, so is her expression.
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    In one word, Mao has everything that Japanese people like.
    Btw I found this video for this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QnTRVRZGAM
    It's 2003 Japanese nationals. Suguri skated to Swan Lake to win, 2nd place was Onda, 3rd Shizuka, 4th Yukina, 5th Miki, 6th Yukari, 7th Mao, 8th Mai, 9th Akiko.
    At 11:46 young Mao and Kanako were watching, then at 11:59 Miki was watching the podium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamon View Post
    In one word, Mao has everything that Japanese people like.
    Btw I found this video for this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QnTRVRZGAM
    It's 2003 Japanese nationals. Suguri skated to Swan Lake to win, 2nd place was Onda, 3rd Shizuka, 4th Yukina, 5th Miki, 6th Yukari, 7th Mao, 8th Mai, 9th Akiko.
    At 11:46 young Mao and Kanako were watching, then at 11:59 Miki was watching the podium.
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. that video is so cute mao is looking at the podium like one day I will be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrah View Post
    The Japanese public loves Mao because of her perceived personality. She's quietly mentally tough. And not at all spiteful or hateful. Always trying her best. Persevering. Does all the things that make her a champion with a smile and without causing a furor.

    Miki has been known to show her emotional instability on twitter, for example, and so she appears to be more of a drama queen type to Mao.
    Akiko is a sweet girl but she has not had the success that Mao has had.

    But it's the rare and uncommon combination of unassuming stoicism and sunny sweetness that Mao projects that makes her a star.

    Also, I think Mao has so many outstanding qualities besides her jumps that make her a special skater. Her presence on the ice is breathe-taking. I find myself watching Mao's performances again and again (and Daisuke's as well) but not the other skaters.
    I couldn't have described it any better than this. I've been a Mao fan since the first time I've seen her skate -- that beaming smile after giving a wonderful performance, I can still remember it. She so unassuming. I'm also a fan of Miki, Akiko and Kanako (the Japanese ladies are amazing) but there's just something about Mao that is so endearing that I cannot describe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamon View Post
    In one word, Mao has everything that Japanese people like.
    Btw I found this video for this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QnTRVRZGAM
    ITA. Which word is the one word though?

    Thanks for the video, cuteness overload!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minze2001 View Post
    I know skating is very important in Japan. And they love their skaters. My question is, having so many elite skaters why did the Japanese decide that Mao Asada was their sweethheart over skaters like Miki and Akiko. I am a huge Mao fan, but the Japanese media give her too much preference. I was watching a program after Nationals and they spend half of the time talking about Mao.


    If I was Miki or Akiko I will feel bad
    Miki has not competed since 2011 Worlds and is questionable if she comes back next season, so I see it is quite natural they did not talk a lot about Miki if you meant a program after the latest Nationals. Japanese TV used to feature Miki as well while she was in the competitive field.

    Akiko is a lovely skater and lots of Japanese FS fans cheer for her as well. I think, however, being a great skater is one thing and being a mega star is quite another. I’d rather find it natural that Japanese TVs would spend more time on Mao than other female skaters because Mao brings considerable audience share. That said, many, and that does include Mao fans, seem to feel uncomfortable with the way a figure skating event was/is broadcasted in Japan. Mediamorphosis on any skater is not appreciated either. Besides, I believe Akiko is not such a narrow minded person who feels bad because of national medium focusing more on Mao than her.


    As for why Mao is so popular in Japan, some posters had explained much better than I could.
    Let me quate one of them

    Quote Originally Posted by hurrah View Post
    The Japanese public loves Mao because of her perceived personality. She's quietly mentally tough. And not at all spiteful or hateful. Always trying her best. Persevering. Does all the things that make her a champion with a smile and without causing a furor.

    But it's the rare and uncommon combination of unassuming stoicism and sunny sweetness that Mao projects that makes her a star.

    Also, I think Mao has so many outstanding qualities besides her jumps that make her a special skater. Her presence on the ice is breathe-taking.
    This! I find Moa's skating so exquisite!

    I understand that her skating style does not necessarily hit a fancy of everyone. But it is just difficult not to respect her for her excellent work ethic regardless who you are rooting for. I am especially impressed that she has never made any excuses despite all the struggle and hardship she had to go through last couple of years. It appears to me that she not only looks lovely but has a lot to correspond to Japanese sense of value. Well...there is something very special with her but it is hard for me to put it into word. After all I think she is a born star, at least in Japan

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