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Correction....... Lawrence and Swiegers has been doing 3 Lutz throws since Juniors.....in 2008 in Saskatoon. ( I believe it also got a huge bonus for a mark of 7.20)I believe they are also the only ones doing 3 Lutz throw. Their program is packed with high technical difficulties.
US Nationals will have more teams, but they will have nothing like as great skating. Quality is more important than quantity.
I really like Duhamel & Radford's short...It's a shame about the stumble on Eric's lutz...but they are the only ones doing a lutz, either, internationally right now, AFAIR.
Unless those teams (or individuals) are from Canada? And Canadian fans shouldn't tout their teams? Lord knows they have to put up with a lot of garbage about their skaters and any decent marks are dismissed as some nefarious plot by judges to favour Canadians. The skating at Nationals has, so far, been spectacular and there's nothing wrong with praising the wonderful young Canadian skaters.Fans should smell the roses and appreciate what all teams have to offer regardless of nationality.
Unless those teams (or individuals) are from Canada? And Canadian fans shouldn't tout their teams? Lord knows they have to put up with a lot of garbage about their skaters and any decent marks are dismissed as some nefarious plot by judges to favour Canadians. The skating at Nationals has, so far, been spectacular and there's nothing wrong with praising the wonderful young Canadian skaters.
Still, I don't think there's any need to say: "U.S. Nationals will have more teams, but nothing like as great skating." That kind of comment smacks of the defensiveness that some Canadian fans seem to project at times.
I assume you don't know that the poster who wrote that comment is an American, not a Canadian. Therefore your entire post is really not relevant.
Having said that, I certainly would not underestimate some of the up-and-coming U.S. teams. If they actually stay together (here's hoping) they could have a real impact in two or three years.
I believe they are also the only ones doing 3 Lutz throw. Their program is packed with high technical difficulties.
Still, I don't think there's any need to say: "U.S. Nationals will have more teams, but nothing like as great skating."
Well it's true so deal with it. ;P
It's absolutely true that the top two Canadian pairs teams today are very highly regarded and highly accomplished and would score higher than the American teams, especially with D/C not at full strength and possibly not going to Worlds. However, it is a conceit to think that Canadian pairs have always been better or more accomplished than U.S. teams, and I think this is and has been a conceit held by many regardless of nationality. At 2010 Olympics, Evora/ Ladwig skated circles around the two Canadian teams, but were low-balled in the marks and placed behind those teams. As much as I used to enjoy Dube/ Davison the judges gifted them at that event in the scoring.
Prior to the rise of D/R and M-T/M, I always felt that Canada's pairs teams post-S/P retirement were on a par with U.S. teams, but perhaps because of S/P legacy, Canadian pairs teams that immediately followed seemed to benefit from S/P afterglow, IMHO. Granted Dube/ Davison were very talented, but they never fully reached their potential before splitting up.
I think what Doris said is being misunderstood. She said that the USA will have the more quantity of pairs but that CANADA has the better quality.
I don't see the slight some have interpretted her statement to have.