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    Quote Originally Posted by vera01 View Post
    You're right. Even if it's going to be held in Canada, her PCS won't be high as Yuna, Caro, and Mao
    Who is saying they will be? For God's sake, she will be a debutant at Worlds, those who are expecting her to contend for a medal are completely unrealistic.
    A top 8 would be a good result, an evetual top 6 would be GREAT!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    Who is saying they will be? For God's sake, she will be a debutant at Worlds, those who are expecting her to contend for a medal are completely unrealistic.
    A top 8 would be a good result, an evetual top 6 would be GREAT!.
    I think Top 10 finish would be considered a success. That said, with the sad state of ladies skating these days and a number of injuries affecting some of the top ladies, anything is possible and that would not be unrealistic. You only need to start looking around who are left standing now in the ladies world.

    Japan: Asada just won her nationals with 3 clean triples and this is actually one of her better skate, meaning she could do worse than that.

    USA : A big ? overall. Wagner is injured. Czisny is not even sure being able to come back. Gold is an unknown / dark horse. Nagasu has the potential but definitely in the league of Osmond.

    Europe : Korpi, the top European lady this season is injured. All the Russian ladies who will be at Worlds have already been beaten by Osmond this season. Kostner is on the road of recovery but her technical content is thin, even if she repeats her content from last year, there are some questions whether that's enough to handle the onslaught of 3/3 and the more difficult Triples, like the Lutz, which she doesn't do anymore, especially if she is unable to even maintain last year's rather water-downed content.

    All said and done, this leaves only Yu Na Kim. In her only outing this season, she struggled through her LP, with a fall and multiple errors. Definitely not the former Yu Na that we were used to quite yet. Still, she will be a favorite going in but that's only one person.

    Looking at this overall picture, is it as unrealistic as you think that Osmond could medal at the World Championship?
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    She's a very good performer with a distinct character and I enjoyed it. That said, her FP is far from perfect, I think her step and choreographic sequences need a lot of improvement.

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    Can't wait to see what SC is going to with regards to naming the 4CC team her either.

    I guess Osmond, Daleman and Chartrand should be sent but maybe they'll try to squeeze Lacoste in somehow? Although doubt it given as lovely as Amelie's skating is, she's never been consistent sadly.

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    The younger ladies are getting better. These junior ladies seem to be able to perform well and not skate cautious. Osmond was solid as usual and always has that sense of performance in her skating. Daleman also impressed me, such attack. Chartrand looks promising too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moment View Post
    She's a very good performer with a distinct character and I enjoyed it. That said, her FP is far from perfect, I think her step and choreographic sequences need a lot of improvement.
    Great performer but that last footwork sequence is very slow near the end. Its one thing that stood out for me as something not yet as good at the top ladies in the world. She iam sure can improve that. She has come so far in just one year already.

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    Iam a bit surprise there are not more videos from Nationals available. Iam lucky this year iam in Canada to watch but when there are so many videos available so quickly for Japanese Nationals and Russian Nationals online but iam sorry to see not many for Canadian Nationals. Daleman's Free is a performance also worth watching as well and for the other disciplines the top 2 in Pairs, for men Reynolds free, Sandhu's short program was beautiful even if it did not rank high. Baby Nam'd free was fun to watch and Patrick both short and free as even with the 2 mistakes i found has improved so much artistically. Seemed alot more relaxed than GPF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figuristka View Post
    Great performer but that last footwork sequence is very slow near the end. Its one thing that stood out for me as something not yet as good at the top ladies in the world. She iam sure can improve that. She has come so far in just one year already.
    I noticed that too, IIRC it happened in both the SP and FS, so hopefully they'll be working on it in the run up to Worlds. It really stood out since the rest of the performance had so much pizzazz.

    Overall this was a really good event I'll admit I hadn't really paid attention to the junior ladies coming up, though I'd heard talk, but better late than never!

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    That step sequence at the end of Osmond's program was indeed slow and laboured. I think the unexpected fall (on the easiest element in her program) took the wind out of her sails.

    Again, the number of transitions in the program is incredible. Just like in the short. So many connecting movements into and out of elements.

    Also, the height Osmond gets on her jumps, especially the monster 3flips is fantastic.

    Good choreography and she sold it incredibly well as she always does. Her back though... so stiff! It's one thing I'll keep nitpicking on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    I think Top 10 finish would be considered a success. That said, with the sad state of ladies skating these days and a number of injuries affecting some of the top ladies, anything is possible and that would not be unrealistic. You only need to start looking around who are left standing now in the ladies world.

    Japan: Asada just won her nationals with 3 clean triples and this is actually one of her better skate, meaning she could do worse than that.

    USA : A big ? overall. Wagner is injured. Czisny is not even sure being able to come back. Gold is an unknown / dark horse. Nagasu has the potential but definitely in the league of Osmond.

    Europe : Korpi, the top European lady this season is injured. All the Russian ladies who will be at Worlds have already been beaten by Osmond this season. Kostner is on the road of recovery but her technical content is thin, even if she repeats her content from last year, there are some questions whether that's enough to handle the onslaught of 3/3 and the more difficult Triples, like the Lutz, which she doesn't do anymore, especially if she is unable to even maintain last year's rather water-downed content.

    All said and done, this leaves only Yu Na Kim. In her only outing this season, she struggled through her LP, with a fall and multiple errors. Definitely not the former Yu Na that we were used to quite yet. Still, she will be a favorite going in but that's only one person.

    Looking at this overall picture, is it as unrealistic as you think that Osmond could medal at the World Championship?
    Yeah! Osmond for the World Champion in home London! Way to go, Canada!

    Oh my... smiles ran out...

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    Wagner doesn't sound injured to me. Sounds like her hip pointer is all healed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post

    Europe : Korpi, the top European lady this season is injured. All the Russian ladies who will be at Worlds have already been beaten by Osmond this season. Kostner is on the road of recovery but her technical content is thin, even if she repeats her content from last year, there are some questions whether that's enough to handle the onslaught of 3/3 and the more difficult Triples, like the Lutz, which she doesn't do anymore, especially if she is unable to even maintain last year's rather water-downed content.

    All said and done, this leaves only Yu Na Kim. In her only outing this season, she struggled through her LP, with a fall and multiple errors. Definitely not the former Yu Na that we were used to quite yet. Still, she will be a favorite going in but that's only one person.
    Not quite!

    Kostner plans 7 triples this season (including 3 Lutz and 3F-3T) and has already delivered a clean 6-triple performance (3F-2T instead of -3T) at her Nationals.

    Also Yuna at her Nationals landed everything cleanly, including her 3Lz-3T at Korean Nationals.

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    Yu-na skated a wonderful lp at her nationals. The fall was a freak fall in the short program. Unlikely this will occur at Worlds. Wagner has recovered from her injury.

    Osmond does wonderfully attack her programs, but in both the short and the long programs the ending portions are noticeably weaker than what preceded. In the short, I expect the choreography is so frenetic that it looks slightly sloppy. She seemed to have run out of steam in the lp, probably the fall knocked the wind out of her.

    To the poster who asked about Gilles, yes, she represents Canada now. If she thought she would have a better chance in Canada, things have certainly shifted there.

    I wouldn't think a top ten finish at Worlds is impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
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    All said and done, this leaves only Yu Na Kim. In her only outing this season, she struggled through her LP, with a fall and multiple errors. Definitely not the former Yu Na that we were used to quite yet. Still, she will be a favorite going in but that's only one person.

    Looking at this overall picture, is it as unrealistic as you think that Osmond could medal at the World Championship?
    A month after NRW, Yuna performned a clean LP at Korean Nationals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=O59GUx8iJMI

    Her condition has considerably improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Can't wait to see what SC is going to with regards to naming the 4CC team her either.

    I guess Osmond, Daleman and Chartrand should be sent but maybe they'll try to squeeze Lacoste in somehow? Although doubt it given as lovely as Amelie's skating is, she's never been consistent sadly.
    Daleman can't go to 4CC because she is too young. That means Lacoste will go to 4CC.

    Daleman can do all international senior events next season. I would not be surprised if she gets the Skate Canada spot next season. She looks ready for that move. It would be nice to see her do JGP but the loop is the jump out of steps next year which would hurt Daleman ( the only triple she doesn't have yet).

    Besides there are other ladies deserving of JGP slots next season.

    I would be more hesistant to put Chartrand on the senior circuit next year. Her PCS needs a lot of work and her basic skating just is not strong enough for the senior level internationally yet.

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