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Patrick's FS practice from Nationals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDLTI7X4ycM Managed the 3axel and 3flip- half loop-3 salchow there as well as both quads.
Which protocols/evets exactly proved according to you that RN is more inflated than CN?Having examined the protocols, I stand by my statement. If you'd like a debate, let me know.
Which protocols/evets exactly proved according to you that RN is more inflated than CN?
Olympic year? Year, let's talk Vancover . Hardy an argument. Russian Nationals were judged more than sober. Just the freshest judging in dances at Euro for comparison is at your service. Competitions at CN? What a joke. Voir and Chan, and pretty much Osmand as well were locked for gold in advance.Plushenko's Olympic year short vs his Nationals SP (in one component score, there is a 2.2 point difference alone); the dance judging in general over the years.
Don't get me wrong. If you said which was worse, 9 times out of 10, it's Canadian Nationals. But they've got competition for the title. And realistically, Canada's gotten worse. But as compared to international scoring, it's not as terrible as we'd like to think (Canadian skaters are overscored internationally is a different debate, of course).
Plushenko's Olympic year short vs his Nationals SP (in one component score, there is a 2.2 point difference alone); the dance judging in general over the years.
Don't get me wrong. If you said which was worse, 9 times out of 10, it's Canadian Nationals. But they've got competition for the title. And realistically, Canada's gotten worse. But as compared to international scoring, it's not as terrible as we'd like to think (Canadian skaters are overscored internationally is a different debate, of course).
Olympic year? Year, let's talk Vancover . Hardy an argument. Russian Nationals were judged more than sober. Just the freshest judging in dances at Euro for comparison is at your service. Competitions at CN? What a joke. Voir and Chan, and pretty much Osmand as well were locked for gold in advance.
That's not a generosity. It sounds more like bitterness that Plu gets over 9s in PCS from internationals panels too like at last year Euro, and somehow doesn't zamboni the ice to use PCS to top . And no. If by "you" you mean "me" personally, then I have no idea what you are talking about. No need to use my persona to back up your opinion when it's definitely not the case. It looks weak and doesn't add any accountability to your statement.just like you know that giving Plushenko a 9 for transitions (and nothing below a 9 for PCS for that SP) is not sober judging. But I'll let it pass too, I'm just that generous.
V/T deservely won with the huge advantge over K/S who are clearly having not their best season. Are you saying that K/S should have won RN? Oh dear, don't be ridiculos. Pairs were actually the only event at RN that was predictable. What do you mean by "they were the best"? You mean Plu wasn't and therefore shouldn't have won? Nice joke. As for Dances and Ladies, no one knew till the last minute what the podium will be. RN was fair play while in CN Canadians are probably the only one judging by this thread who think that Kevin didn't deserve gold.I'd point out that V/T absolutely routed the competition at Russian Nationals, had huge scores during the season for less-than-stellar skates as well - were they not locks? The difference, of course, is that K/S should be treated better than they are by their own federation but have been utterly dismissed. People pretended that Plushenko might lose, of course, but that certainly didn't come to pass.
Patrick Chan's Axels
The protocols show that he did two double axels and neither one of them were in combination. The rules state that you can not repeat a jump unless it is in combo. Why was he allowed credit for both of those? I suppose one of them was probably planned to be a combo but it wasn't. Anyone know the answer or do I have that all wrong?
Refreshing to see the American judging. Look what happened with Jeremy Abbott. You do not bring your "A" game you don't get rewarded. Even with his cache, he doubled his triple
axle made a few other errors and finished in third spot. He wont go to worlds since they can only send two. That would not happen here in Canada. What does Kevin Reynolds have to do to win,
a Quad Axle?
To be fair, the discrepancy between Abbott and Miner/Aaron is far smaller than the PCS discrepancy between Chan and Reynolds.
Refreshing to see the American judging. Look what happened with Jeremy Abbott. You do not bring your "A" game you don't get rewarded. Even with his cache, he doubled his triple
axle made a few other errors and finished in third spot. He wont go to worlds since they can only send two. That would not happen here in Canada. What does Kevin Reynolds have to do to win,
a Quad Axle?
There is a huge difference in what happend to Abbott( who did no quad in short or Free) where 2 competitors beat him and Patrick Chan and Kevin Reynolds. Patrick made a couple errors but still did 2 quads and one in combination, not to mention the best SS in the world, and amazing artistry. Kevin has shown great improvement but is not a powerful skater and internationally Patrick would have beaten him too.