01-25-2013, 02:29 AM
Six Point Zero
Definitely felt like a "wuzrobbed" moment when she got her scores. I felt pretty bad for her. The tech panel should have been more lenient since the rotations were pretty borderline (to my eyes at least).
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
01-25-2013, 02:44 AM
01-25-2013, 03:04 AM
Agreed. It's terrible that under-rotations are the worst mistake a skater can make. I'm fine with full downgrades for being a half-rotation short. But regular under-rotations should just be a -2 or -3 GOE without chopping the base value - otherwise, it's just double jeopardy.
Originally Posted by Krislite
01-25-2013, 03:10 AM
Gracie is still young, she has a bit of nerve issue though not as severe as Adelinas
Originally Posted by MarkusNJ
I think Mirai is the safe bet to get 23 spots back for Olympics
01-25-2013, 03:10 AM
How come a wooden Ashley and Agnes with a fall are higher than gorgeous Mirai. Frankly, she and Gracie are my fav US skaters. Ashley is consistent but she's unpleasant to watch, she reminds of a wooden toy - stretch your arms, lift your arms...all her movements don't look nice to me. Agnes seems artificial to me.
I think the placement reflects the intention of sending AW and AZ to the Worlds and secure 3 spots for the next year. Mirai is inconsistent.
01-25-2013, 03:13 AM
that was a bit of a splatfest
hopefully FS will be better
01-25-2013, 03:17 AM
Zawadzki is not much faster than C. Zhang and not any more consistent than Nagasu. Why does USFSA love her so much? There is nothing about her that stands out? It isn't like she is cracking out 3lz-3ts either. Is it because she is blonde?
01-25-2013, 03:20 AM
Well it makes sense for the USFSA and U.S judges to go into Nationals with a "if she stands up most of the 2 programs she wins, period" attitude when it comes to Wagner. Whether her skating is everyones cup of tea or not fact is she has the most international street cred right now, she is by far their best hope for a high finish or possible medal at Worlds, and she has been their most consistent and reliable skater by a long ways the last 2 seasons.
Originally Posted by gioccia
How they scored Nagasu vs Agnes given Agnes having a fall was a surprise to me, and I do agree telling of the where the USFSA wants to go with this. Agnes still has to deliver a strong enough LP to preserve her spot though, since even if the judges would rather give it to her, if Nagasu outskates her by enough they would have no choice.
01-25-2013, 03:31 AM
US nationals this year is very commendable
Originally Posted by vera01
the scores barely reflect any minimum inflation
01-25-2013, 03:33 AM
which is just wrong
Originally Posted by evangeline
I never get the Zawadzki overpromotion, she is a hot n cold skater
as usually does terrible LPs
01-25-2013, 03:36 AM
I have noticed this for 2 seasons now with Zawadzki being overpromoted
Originally Posted by noidont
really ? she is unreliable and is prone to LP meltdowns her worst case she can score in 120-130+ overall in an international scorings
01-25-2013, 04:06 AM
I dont know why everyone is hating on agnes. The reason she is in second is because her two successful jumps were textbook perfection.Yes she had a fall, but it was on a very minor element that doesn't cost huge points. I dont think there has been any overpromotion. Yes she can be inconsistent but besides the 2A every other element was perfection and her marks showed it.
I thought mirai was great, she was really fast and attacked all her elements. On a bad note, she was a little iffy on some of her spins which would usually rack up big points which didnt today. Also with her music choice, she didnt have a suiting personality. It was almost like she was just focusing on the jumps and nothing for performance. Yes she skated great and she had a unlucky draw but her performance was not as good as agnes, therefore she had slightly lower components
Truthfully if anyone was overmarked it was Ashley. Her program was mediocre, boring and stiff. Her spins were bad and her jumps weren't so crash hot.
Caroline i believe had lower components than expected, even with her super slow skating. However i agree with the technical panel about the downgrades and under-rotations. When i look slow-motion i can see that she absolutely under-rotated and downgraded her 2 big jumping phases so her technical score reflected what i expected. But components were defs low. She should have scored maybe 28-29 for components instead of 26
01-25-2013, 05:18 AM
And don't forget how this fact has not only wrecked results, but also wrecked skaters' bodies and careers.
Originally Posted by draqq
01-25-2013, 06:19 AM
Gracie has been working with a sports psychologist since her performance at Skate Canada.
01-25-2013, 08:34 AM
I agree. Agnes's jumps were huge and perfection. Just WOW. She landed the most difficult jump and combination which Ashley even didn't attempt. She executed other elements well, so deserves to be the second place, IMO.
Originally Posted by sk8ingcoach
Mirai was enjoyable to watch! I think this program suits her well.
Ashley was impressive. What a competitor! All the jumps were solid, but she needs to work on footwork though.
Poor Caroline. She did her best, but her jumps looked definitely underrotated and she was slow as usual. PCS was lower than I expected, but I wasn't that surprised by her score.
It didn't work well yesterday. She looked super nervous from the beginning to the end. She has a lot of potential, but needs many experiences to be great. I wonder why she doesn't attempt 3Lz-3T in the SP. She gets an "e" on 3F, and it's an inconsistent jump for her. Her 3Lz is much better and consistent.
Originally Posted by Icey