01-26-2013, 09:43 AM
But then look at last year. Same situation and she was right in the mix...I don't know what was up this time. I could have understood something like 54...but 49??? Lowball. And I'm not her fan.
Originally Posted by katymay
Conspiracy theories are always floating around that USFS wants this result, or the judges want to send so-and-so, and initially you hope it's all crock...but sometimes when you see shady scoring like this, it can't be helped to wonder if there's actually something in those statements.
01-26-2013, 02:28 PM
To give the judging some credit, Caroline was not the only skater who received an underrotation call.
Originally Posted by R.D.
Looking at the protocols, especially on triple-triples half of the skaters in the top 12 received underrotation calls including: Hicks (Triple Flip-Triple Toe), Siraj (Triple Toe-Triple Toe), Miller (Triple Loop), Gold (Triple Flip-Triple Toe), Cain (Triple Sal), and Zhang (Loop & Flip).
My qualm is more with the rulebook, rather than the judging.
Surprise, you may be 12th or 5th. No one knows for sure until scores show up -- you don't know, the audience at the rink and at home don't know, even other skaters watching and expert commentators don't know, and even some judges in the building might not know until the Technical Controller tells them!
01-26-2013, 03:17 PM
Having not seen the videos of any of these skaters except for Zhang, I don't know how much I agree with any of those calls. They may have been obviously underrotated, or in the case of Zhang not obviously underrotated/downgraded.
Originally Posted by Bruin714
01-26-2013, 03:54 PM
Think it does FS any favors?
Originally Posted by Bruin714
The commentators don't necessarily have to get it right 100% of the time but they should at least have an idea. If they don't, you've got a problem...if the scoring is stumping/confounding even NJS experts, you've REALLY got a problem
01-26-2013, 06:11 PM
I guess caroline may not attempt 3lo+3lo anymore, or any other ladies. She even got a better score at 4cc last year even with a fall on the combination. It must have been a shock since she was doing pretty well until the scores came up.
01-26-2013, 08:22 PM
Didn't recognize Hicks at first. She looks almost the same height but her size is different. Spins still amazing but she's lost some stretch which happens with puberty usually.
01-26-2013, 08:25 PM
This is interesting: Gracie Gold skates at the Wagon Wheels club, which I think is Janet Lynn's old club.
01-26-2013, 08:34 PM
and... World Peace!
Scott Hamilton skated there, too, and yes Lynn was one of their stars. Scott wrote about watching her skate there and having her give him advice that he blew off as a kid.
Originally Posted by Olympia
01-26-2013, 09:05 PM
Thanks, Toni. That's funny about Scotty.
Originally Posted by Tonichelle
I like Gracie's skating. Her jumps are wonderfully springy. And I really love Christina. I hope she pulls herself up in the Long. By the way, I like Ashley's program. That jump where she lands and immediately does a leap--what an exit! And her spins are faster this year.