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    I really enjoyed the Russian performance. Not perfect technically but I found it very intense, I really enjoyed the performance. I'm glad they won. The Germans were a bit disappointing, it's not their best programme, I found it a bit empty. A great result for the Italians. I really enjoyed the French, they were superb, they went for everything, I would have them ahead of the Italians.

    Very disappointing from K/S, they have a lot of work to do before worlds, they are now only ranked 5th in Europe. I thought they had turned a corner at the Russian Nationals, with two good performances but they were not on form in Zagreb. I wonder did the late arrival affect them? Fingers crossed they can pull it together for worlds. There is a bronze medal up for grabs, I think the Canadians have a good shot of sneaking a medal.

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    PAIRS LONG PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT

    1. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR & Maxim TRANKOV (RUS) - 212.45 Free Skate, Interview
    2. Aliona SAVCHENKO & Robin SZOLKOWY (GER) - 205.24 Free Skate
    3. Stefania BERTON & Ondrej HOTAREK (ITA) - 187.45 Free Skate
    4. Vanessa JAMES & Morgan CIPRES (FRA) - 178.81 Free Skate
    5. Yuko KAVAGUTI & Alexander SMIRNOV (RUS) - 175.48 Free Skate
    6. Ksenia STOLBOVA & Fedor KLIMOV (RUS) - 167.23
    7. Daria POPOVA & Bruno MASSOT (FRA) - 157.12
    8. Mari VARTMANN & Aaron VAN CLEAVE (GER) - 141.79
    9. Nicole DELLA MONICA & Matteo GUARISE (ITA) - 140.89
    10. Stacey KEMP & David KING (GBR) - 131.51
    11. Julia LAVRENTIEVA & Yuri RUDYK (UKR) - 128.79
    12. Elizaveta MAKAROVA & Leri KENCHADZE (BUL) - 115.96
    13. Stina MARTINI & Severin KIEFER (AUT) - 112.29
    14. Maria PALIAKOVA & Nikita BOCHKOV (BLR) - 103.13
    15. Magdalena KLATKA & Radoslaw CHRUSCINSKI (POL) - 99.65

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    I agree! I really liked S/S... But this is the first medal ever for Italy in Pairs!!
    Congrats to Stefania and Ondrej & Team Italia! This is a well deserved medal. I especially like how Ondrej seems to be the life of this pair, he carried Stefania through even though she clearly is not as good as him. Hopefully, people would now fully accept him as part of the Italian team as opposed to where he was born/raised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue View Post
    everybody sticks to their opinion I guess)
    I found S/S fp weird
    it's really worse than the last year's fp
    It's your opinion and it seems in the minority. V/T started their program OK but then it got booooring. S/S program was great and costumes reflected the music - Spanish Bolero.

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    The best PROGRAMS for me are S/K and K/S...too bad about the quality though.
    Among the short programs the best for me are italians

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    Quote Originally Posted by snejina View Post
    Extremely boring, empty program of V/T, poor choreography, much overscored! Even with the fall S/S are much better as choreography of the program, as well as skating! Actually, the most attractive program as choreography at the Euros is the B/H's program.
    Sadly, you are correct. B/H had the better program vs. either the Gold or Silver medalists. It feels as though ranking in pairs nowadays are more deeply entrenched than ice dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katia View Post
    It's your opinion and it seems in the minority. V/T started their program OK but then it got booooring. S/S program was great and costumes reflected the music - Spanish Bolero.
    i'm a proud minority!ahah
    agree to disagree) V/T were emotional...I felt their skating, germans? not so much

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    I cannot understand why everyone so in love with SS program. I think it is really boring and has no deama in it, neither it is funny. VT did not show their best, bur were clearly the winners for me and I loved the program too. Italians are the big break- through for me, while KS are huge dissapointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    Sadly, you are correct. B/H had the better program vs. either the Gold or Silver medalists. It feels as though ranking in pairs nowadays are more deeply entrenched than ice dance.
    I disagree re: European ice dance, otherwise agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noidont View Post
    V/T is overrated for the reason that they can always manage to land their sbs triples. In pairs these days so few can do that...but their LP is awfully boring, and let's face it, they are going to be olympic champions with no memorable program.
    Funny, if that's true, then Duhamel/Radford would be winning all the events this season they entered since no one else can land SBS Triple Lutz the way they do + Throw Triple Lutz.

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    And it's not just the program. Whilst in the SP, V/T were near perfect and everything was effortless, in the FS their elements were hard work throughout. No major errors outside the two throws but the elements were just not particularly high quality this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue View Post
    Either way, the germans just skated from element to element.
    Pretty much every single element had connecting movements coming in and out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    And it's not just the program. Whilst in the SP, V/T were near perfect and everything was effortless, in the FS their elements were hard work throughout. No major errors outside the two throws but the elements were just not particularly high quality this time.



    Pretty much every single element had connecting movements coming in and out.
    aaaaand?..I must love their fp because of that? I talk about emotions) Does it touch or not...So the germans are GREAT in terms of elements, but I didn't like it

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    Neither top 2 pair skated perfect, but I agree with the results. Whilst S/S have the more complex program, I feel V/T have better flow which I prefer in pairs.

    Technically: S/S made a big mistake on the sbs triple salchows (doubles) which only garnered them 0.83 point. With the fall deduction they actually lost point on that element. V/T made mistakes on the throws, but -GOE isn't as severe.

    Overall I'm quite disappointed with both pair's programs. I hope they come up with something better next season.

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    Congrats to Tanya/Maxim, you did your father proud !
    disappointed by K/S they are regressing in each competition

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    S/S have boring programs this season so their gap with V/T will get even bigger
    plus its not like they have better technical contents, they made mistakes

    B/L should be the silver favorite for Worlds
    with the aging Germans , P/T for bronze medals

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