01-24-2013, 04:59 PM
Good to see V&T have such an emotional win under the most dificult circumstances. What a brave and courageous individual Maxim Trankov is. Also good to see them finally beat S&S after being robbed of both the GP Final and World golds last year by poor judging. Hopefully they will get the World and Olympic golds they deserve this and next year now.
01-24-2013, 05:00 PM
hmm. skating from element to element isnt anyway marvelous, its S/S who have empty programs
Originally Posted by draqq
they dont even feel their programs
S/S should be thankful to B/L withdrawal that they got silver
had B/L competed and skated clean S/S would have placed no higher than bronze !
01-24-2013, 05:01 PM
agreed. congrats to V/T
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
Iam sure he did his father proud
01-24-2013, 05:04 PM
Congrats to Berton/Hotarek for winning the first European medal in Pairs for Italy !
01-24-2013, 05:06 PM
I LOVE ALIONA AND ROBIN. They are amazing to me and they skated very well, inspite of salchow and sbs spins, such a quality in the 2 first elements. And I like the FP, with a stunning end position!
Volosozhar and Trankov skated very well, but not perfect, like always. Big scores to a performance with some big errors. In this way they will win Worlds. Maybe the "preparation" to Olympics.
Berton and Hotarek had big scores too, but I'm happy for them, they deserve.
A nice pairs night, could be better.
01-24-2013, 05:07 PM
I generally spend Euros glued to the TV posting by the bucket load in a live PBP, but barely had the enthusiasm to watch the final group this year. This competition is indicative of the state of the sport in my opinion and I've just about lost all interest.
It's genuinely hilarious that the CH, SS, TR of Kavaguti and Smirnov is marked pretty much even with Frenchies and Italians. I mean, they are frustrating in the technical and in dire need of consistency but, it's been apparent for a year now that even if they go clean, they are being Pettiked and dumped ASAP. I await Smirnov and Bazarova in the wake of Sochi. I'm sick for Yuko who has dedicated her adult life to the sport and lament the fact that they will never again be marked on the merit of their performance but are bound to the inconsistencies of their past few years and the lack of support (read: thrown under a bus) by from the Russian fed.
The simple fact that you need "support" is pathetic, but that's the reason the Frenchies and Italians are suddenly worth 7's and 120's for the LP when neither team has properly crafted programs. I like both teams but am frustrated with Berton's lack of of CH or TR in the FP since I know they have potential, but how long is it going to take to live up to that?
I'm betting Berton's bronze was bought by selling Caplans potential gold. 2 medals instead of 1. Meh
James and Cipres, still a lot to learn but, they are relatively new and I look forward to the progression. They have something fresh, but it's not choreography.
V&T - dated, incredible elements, incredible skills...but I can't believe they still haven't had THAT killer program. It's so disappointing. CH does matter, dated, "Seen it before" should not score 9 - it just shouldn't!
S&S - I get what they are trying, it doesn't read wow, but as always, it does read different/fresh and innovative. Honestly, I hope they draw on successes of the past for their programs next year, but either way, the writing is on the wall. The gold won;t happen.
It's so freaking predictable.
Now bring on worlds where Duhamel's medal has already been bought by the cannucks!
01-24-2013, 05:10 PM
Smirnov might still find a new partner after Sochi after Yuko retires
Originally Posted by jamie
but I dont think Bazarova/Larionov will split barring major injuries
01-24-2013, 05:12 PM
01-24-2013, 05:16 PM
Yeah. They are a confirmed couple IRL and she has openly stated she knew from a young age she did not ever want to skate with anyone else separate from that.
Originally Posted by sky_fly20
01-24-2013, 05:21 PM
I think I read somewhere that Vera and Yuri are in a relation soo...no chances for them to change parteners
01-24-2013, 05:33 PM
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PAIRS LONG PROGRAM - VIDEOS & RESULT (Updated)
1. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR & Maxim TRANKOV (RUS) - 212.45 Free Skate, 2nd Copy, Interview
2. Aliona SAVCHENKO & Robin SZOLKOWY (GER) - 205.24 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
3. Stefania BERTON & Ondrej HOTAREK (ITA) - 187.45 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
4. Vanessa JAMES & Morgan CIPRES (FRA) - 178.81 Free Skate
5. Yuko KAVAGUTI & Alexander SMIRNOV (RUS) - 175.48 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
6. Ksenia STOLBOVA & Fedor KLIMOV (RUS) - 167.23
7. Daria POPOVA & Bruno MASSOT (FRA) - 157.12
8. Mari VARTMANN & Aaron VAN CLEAVE (GER) - 141.79
9. Nicole DELLA MONICA & Matteo GUARISE (ITA) - 140.89
10. Stacey KEMP & David KING (GBR) - 131.51
11. Julia LAVRENTIEVA & Yuri RUDYK (UKR) - 128.79
12. Elizaveta MAKAROVA & Leri KENCHADZE (BUL) - 115.96
13. Stina MARTINI & Severin KIEFER (AUT) - 112.29
14. Maria PALIAKOVA & Nikita BOCHKOV (BLR) - 103.13
15. Magdalena KLATKA & Radoslaw CHRUSCINSKI (POL) - 99.65
Last edited by Mao88; 01-24-2013 at 06:08 PM.
01-24-2013, 05:34 PM
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Last edited by Mao88; 01-24-2013 at 06:11 PM.
01-24-2013, 05:36 PM
after all, figure skating is still a sport. It SHOULD be about the elements. You really don’t need to love any program or skater.
Originally Posted by koatcue
01-24-2013, 05:37 PM
leave no stone unturned
S/S program is different and has some interesting choreo but honestly live the music was repetitive with no highlights, they looked slower than usual and the program itself doesnt have flow. Maybe its just this version of Bolero that took away from their performance.
V/T program is boring and predictable but they sold it, the score was huge though. I wish the French team was third, but the Italian couple were really crowd favorites.
I think Kavaguti Smirnov had the best program and I loved her costume. The best choreo was from K/S, this Adams family is really amazing live.
This is the tears day, the medal ceremony was really touching and after the tour of Champions Trankov gave me his flag. Now I have a Russian flag to cheer next days!
01-24-2013, 05:44 PM
So happy for the first medal ever for Italy in Pairs at an ISU Championship.
Originally Posted by wallylutz
Didn't expect it was coming! Just a silent hope...
Maybe few people know that they worked with Lambiel for some time, taking some advices for their Poeta free program.
Ondrej is much more consistent than Stefania, but I don't think he is necessarily better overall, especially when it comes to skating skills. Actually, when they started their pair, she had noticeably better skating skills than him. As time went by, he really upped his game as a skater, with smooth edges, speed, coverage etc.
On the other hand, he has better stamina.
Great work as a pair, thanks to their whole team. I'm so proud!
Last edited by waltzjump; 01-24-2013 at 05:52 PM.