02-01-2013, 01:56 AM
Yagudin was an all-around 6.0 skater. Someone in this thread mentioned that he had lots of spin variations. Really? Which were these spins variation?
Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy
Or his fans keep saying how great was his choreography or footwork. These are just myths. Yagudins’s choreography , though pleasant to watch, was exactly the typical 6.0 choreography: front-loaded programs, with cross-overs between elements and lots of posing. The same goes for footwork: fast, quick steps but no edgework.
Please remove the rose-coloured glasses, watch his programs again and let us know what do you think about spins, footwork, coreography, transitions (he had exactly the same amount of transitions as Plushenko , yet Yagudin is regarded as the one having intricate programs...).
And I am not saying all these to criticize Yagudin. He was a very good skater who did exactly what was required of him to win under 6.0 system.,
But let’s not fantasize about his skills.
02-01-2013, 02:34 AM
I agree, Yagudin was a 6.0 skater and that's why he was so successful, he did what he had to do. Obviously it doesn't mean he wasn't a great skater, Takahashi's Chan's, Hanyu's programs will probably look silly too in the future.
02-01-2013, 04:13 AM
Of course. But le'ts not pretend that all his skills (like spins, footwork) transceded the 6.0 system .
Originally Posted by ciocio
The same goes for MIchelle Kwan
Last edited by amber68; 02-01-2013 at 04:18 AM.
02-01-2013, 04:52 AM
I hope someday those Yagudin's fans can find a thread with Yagudin's name. Not Plushy thread. By the way, I think I have to post the protocols of Medal Winners Open and Japan Open which Yags took part.
Last edited by Evgenia; 02-01-2013 at 05:11 AM.
02-01-2013, 05:26 AM
Off the ice
Originally Posted by ciocio
6.0 skaters did what they had to do to succeed in that period; we can't say for sure how they would have fared under the IJS (early or current version). We've seen skaters make the transition with varying levels of success: Takahashi and Kostner started out in the old system, but their skating works well with the current one, while Joubert made some adjustments and has been quite successful, but probably would have done better under the old system. KvdP remained a 6.0 skater at heart, as did Johnny Weir. Kwan I wouldn't count, since she only skated once under the IJS.
Originally Posted by amber68
I think Plushenko, like Joubert, has taken a mixed approach, making some adjustments but retaining the core of what he was as a 6.0 skater. It's worked well for him, obviously.
I hope his recovery will go well. At least winter in Israel should be much nicer than in Russia
02-01-2013, 05:44 AM
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