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    Quote Originally Posted by emma View Post
    This is the first time I'm seeing the Shibs SD...and for the most part, I quite liked it. And, I really don't see Maia as stiff either...and personally, find her quite lovely to watch. What I did dislike was the costume, particularly the headband/tiara thingy...I think that somehow made her look as if she were playing a little girl playing a princess (of course, I never loved Navka's headbands much either, so perhaps this is just my peculiar perspective).
    I really do think their packaging is somewhat off. Like how can their coaches not notice their costumes are completely wrong? (the SD I mean). It makes her look completely inadequate, and he looks stiff.

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    And Mrs. P, is -1.00 the standard deduction for an extended lift?
    In other words, if the lift indeed exceeded the time limit, the Shibutanis are not being penalized unfairly, are they?

    In any case, I hope the Shibs will skate a strong FD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Sometimes it's just a matter of how quickly they are rotating or the timing.
    Yes but like the negative one is assuming that the lift was too long because the dancers really forgot what they were doing in a really flawed way and not just that it went a little long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    And Mrs. P, is -1.00 the standard deduction for an extended lift?
    In other words, if the lift indeed exceeded the time limit, the Shibutanis are not being penalized unfairly, are they?

    In any case, I hope they will skate a strong FD.

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    5:27 PM - 25 Jan 13
    Yes -1 is typical for an extended lift. It's nothing to worry about -- it's a matter of reining it in and making sure your timing isn't off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    Yes but like the negative one is assuming that the lift was too long because the dancers really forgot what they were doing in a really flawed way and not just that it went a little long.
    Not really. As I said, I think it was borderline. They'll just work to pay more careful attention next time.

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    I still don't understand the rationale for the rule that says a lift can't be too long. Why does the CoP insist that a lift can only be held for a certain amount of time?

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    Are they even past Skate America level/capacity? If they can't boost the attendance at the event, might as well boost the scores!
    Meryl and Charlie's SD http://youtu.be/r3AI2sqbX-E

    Not keen on their free dance, but of all the programs this season, Meryl and Charlie's Giselle is my fave in any discipline. EXCELENTE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I still don't understand the rationale for the rule that says a lift can't be too long. Why does the CoP insist that a lift can only be held for a certain amount of time?
    I think to cut down on teams that were only good on lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I still don't understand the rationale for the rule that says a lift can't be too long. Why does the CoP insist that a lift can only be held for a certain amount of time?
    This is ice dance not pairs skating. The ISU wants to differentiate. Lifters, go that way.

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    I hope the Shibutani's come back strong tomorrow!! After Davis and White, they are my favorite ice dancing team

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Hubbell & Donahue will probably split after missing the World team this year. So sad. Couldnt care less about the Shibutanis one way or the other so dont care what they do.
    What are you smoking? They won't split. They just got together less than 2 years ago

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    Lifts are only a highlight in a dance. Pure dance doesn't even have lifts (see ballroom rules).

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    I like the Shibs, but I am personally happy for Madison Chock. Hope she and Bates get to go to Worlds. Really looking forward to the free dance!

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    For those ice dance experts, especially pre-cop, weren't lifts timed before CoP too? I somehow thought that one of the 'big deals' in dance lifts was the ability to get in to position effortlessly and quickly - do the ta da moment - then get out equally efortlessly and quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    They had the tenacity to skate well when the favourites faltered. That earns hatred in the world of figure skating enthusiasts.
    Frankly I think the Shibutani's should have been 3rd at 2011 Worlds even if the French didn't make that huge mistake. Their program was a pure delight, as compared to the French's being *shrug*, and they were technically stronger in several ways...

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